I fought the HOA and I beat the system.

$73 million for a club house and pool. Ridiculous!
HOAS ARE DICTATORSHIP.
If you own the property, you should be able to do with it what you want as long as you don't physically endanger the lives of your neighbors.
I live under a home owners covenant, but it will expire in 2025. I'm wondering if there will be a legal fight to extend the covenant. I'll be in the group to let the covenant expire.
 
HOAs are a "private business" of sorts. Many of them are run by private corporations who do nothing BUT run HOAs, which can result in the big legal "muscle" they seem to have . . . for a fee to the developer. Which can also result in a somewhat standardized set of rules and regulations which THEY know how to manipulate to their advantage, by observation.

Perhaps it would be neat if the real estate person had to read you each of the rules and regulations at the time of signing the contract? IF enough buyers balked at that, THEN something might change. Otherwise, the HOA agreement can tend to be buried in the manty pages of "Sign here" paperwork the owner signs at the point of sale.

HOAs do have too much power, by observation. Having a residence YOU paid for foreclosed upon for some minor infraction strikes me as being totally incorrect. On the other hand, it seems that if you can afford a home in an HOA development (from what I've seen), you should be able to afford to meet their regulations related to property cosmetics, I suspect.

Happy Holidays!
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I don't know if it's the same everywhere but here in the Phoenix area you can't buy a house anyplace that doesn't have a HOA unless it's in a 50 plus year old neighborhood. I have a POA but the dues are only around $400 a year and for that money they maintain the roads (they are private) and maintain the irrigation canals and access roads plus order and schedule our water for irrigation. I feel I'm getting more than my money's worth from them. The pictures show what I mean by irrigation.
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F HOA's! There's a certain community in North Phoenix that gets a cut of your proceeds when uou sell your house. Tell me that isn't some BS! There's a reason why I have never lived in an HOA community and never will. Too many Napoleons and Karen's run those groups.
 
Good opportunity for an update on the FUHOA Reservation.

I bought the land behind me when there was literally nothing but worthless sand, Scrub Oak and Scrub Pine. Well, the street it sits on is almost fully developed now with "other cultures". A Lotta fences going up.
The gardening was fully mature and lush but it hit 20°F one night a few weeks ago and I lost 90% of it. Start over, I guess.
Still go out to the porch at 4:20 to have a beer or two.
Weekends are noisy now but the Ukraine shitshow is a million miles away at least.
 
Slow news morning so what better time to give an update of The FUHOA Reservation.
The Old People from the North Tidal Wave crashing into Florida is getting even worse. There was literally nothing west of me to the County line.
My street was all white and Indian professionals.
Every lot that you see developed in the right photo is 80% "democrat".
I hear Polara Dave in Idaho is lamenting about the development.
Tampa and Miami were just ranked #1 and 2 IN THE COUNTRY for biggest growth.
The Reservation is surrounded and under attack.

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Slow news morning so what better time to give an update of The FUHOA Reservation.
The Old People from the North Tidal Wave crashing into Florida is getting even worse. There was literally nothing west of me to the County line.
My street was all white and Indian professionals.
Every lot that you see developed in the right photo is 80% "democrat".
I hear Polara Dave in Idaho is lamenting about the development.
Tampa and Miami were just ranked #1 and 2 IN THE COUNTRY for biggest growth.
The Reservation is surrounded and under attack.

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Holy crap. That area around you has really developed since I was there, but I guess that was 8 years ago.
 
I can certainly sympathize with you Stan. My area has had steady growth for the 32 years I've lived in this house but the last 5 years of industrial growth has been obscene! This picture is a couple years old and now there are many new warehouses's north of what is shown here including 2 Amazon and one Walmart Fulfillment centers. My house is right under the S in the red rectangle. And don't get me started on all the housing subdivisions around me. The "new" high school is 4 years old and already overcrowded. All this growth has come at the expense of farmland. Be prepared to get more crops from Mexico and central America.
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And you guys wonder why I don't want to move south... Oliver's Produce has made their farm stand bigger, but that's about it.
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