Tool C-4113

[larry]

I am looking to rent or buy the 1974 Dodge Charger steering wheel lock plate pin removal tool. It is Mopar special tool # C-4113 . Any idea where I can get a hold of one?

 

[CBODY67]

Howdy and welcome!

IF that steering column is similar to the one in my '70 Monaco and '80 Newport, it is a Saginaw column, which means it shares many architectural situations with GM steering columns, although it was built to Chrysler's specs.

The item you desire generally was not available to the general public, although some do appear on eBay and such every so often. BUT you can get something very similar to it from aftermarket tool sources. But, then too, you might not need it, but having something like it can be easier and quicker to use that what I did, which was use my feet to compress the spring behind the lock plate, so that the circular wire clip could be removed (or installed). When I did that in the middle 1970s, I was younger, more limber, AND leaner, so it worked.

So, check with your local auto supply (usually in the Lisle brand) for a "lock plate compressor". Perhaps they might have one they could loan you rather than buying one?

Just curious, what sort of issue might you be having that you need to remove the lock plate?

Just some thoughts,
CBODY67

 

[1970FuryConv]

Welcome from Virginia!
Since a Charger is a B-Body, have joined www.fbbo.com as well?

 

[david hill]

Here is an inexpensive tool that well worth the cost. ANY auto parts store w/ a tool rental program should have one.

 

[Trace 300 Hurst]

 

[Samplingman]

It’s nothing more than a drift pin. Tap it out with a block of wood for support.

 

[larry]

Howdy and welcome!

IF that steering column is similar to the one in my '70 Monaco and '80 Newport, it is a Saginaw column, which means it shares many architectural situations with GM steering columns, although it was built to Chrysler's specs.

The item you desire generally was not available to the general public, although some do appear on eBay and such every so often. BUT you can get something very similar to it from aftermarket tool sources. But, then too, you might not need it, but having something like it can be easier and quicker to use that what I did, which was use my feet to compress the spring behind the lock plate, so that the circular wire clip could be removed (or installed). When I did that in the middle 1970s, I was younger, more limber, AND leaner, so it worked.

So, check with your local auto supply (usually in the Lisle brand) for a "lock plate compressor". Perhaps they might have one they could loan you rather than buying one?

Just curious, what sort of issue might you be having that you need to remove the lock plate?

Just some thoughts,
CBODY67

I need to replace the ignition lock. It is VERY sticky and hard to turn although it still works. Here is a picture of the C-4113 tool:

 

[larry]

It’s nothing more than a drift pin. Tap it out with a block of wood for support.View attachment 526763

It is not a drift pin or roller pin but a solid steel pin

 

[larry]

View attachment 526760

Here is a picture from the Shop Manual for the 74 Charger:

 

[Samplingman]

Solid or not, it is still easily punched out with a drift, the tool just adds the support so as to not damage the shaft. You have to pull the shaft anyway to gain access to the lock plate to remove it. Once the shaft is out you will have full access to the lock cylinder, no? I had to remove my lock plate because I was replacing the shaft, if I didn't have to do that I would have left it in place to rebuild the rest of the column, so I guess that's what I'm not understanding. Is it a tilt wheel?

 

[larry]

Solid or not, it is still easily punched out with a drift, the tool just adds the support so as to not damage the shaft. You have to pull the shaft anyway to gain access to the lock plate to remove it. Once the shaft is out you will have full access to the lock cylinder, no? I had to remove my lock plate because I was replacing the shaft, if I didn't have to do that I would have left it in place to rebuild the rest of the column, so I guess that's what I'm not understanding. Is it a tilt wheel?

The shaft has not been removed. The Mopar shop manual for the car which I bought when I bought the car new says that once you get the lock plate off you can access the ignition lock. This is a 1974 Dodge Charger. It does not tilt. I have tried a C clamp setup but it wont budge. Do you think applying heat will help? Thanks for the input.

 

[Samplingman]

Oh no, never use heat on the column, that could cause more damage. Have you tried asking over at the B body site? They might have the tool in question.

 

[CBODY67]

I need to replace the ignition lock. It is VERY sticky and hard to turn although it still works. Here is a picture of the C-4113 tool:
View attachment 526764

Definitely different that a C-body . . .