For Sale 1971 Chrysler 300 2dr (not mine)

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Maybe he let's it go for 17k so it can be offered in Germany for 30k euros .. Oh wait it's not black.
 
I talked with the guy over a week ago. The car has not been driven in over 10 years, but he has started it from time to time. That car has a lot of issues lurking in it now IMO and the price is not attainable on Craigslist in the U.S. or probably even in Europe. The roof has some rust bubbles too, and I still have not found out about the condition of the trunk floor because he has lost the trunk keys. I am passing primarily because I am not so keen on the colors or the price given the realities. It is a repaint and the left front fender is bent under at the front.
 
Marv said:
Maybe he let's it go for 17k so it can be offered in Germany for 30k euros .. Oh wait it's not black.
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Carsten alerted the seller of his triple black 71 300 that it is worth $30K in Germany given its very low miles, originality, and documentation. The seller decided instead to sell it for $17K for a quick sale. Several other people saw it in person and had a chance to buy it for the $17K because they had to "ask their wives" etc and probably didn't have the money perhaps. So the guy that later ultimately got it had the money, agreed with Carsten and is offering it for that price. He was smart and had the money. So where is the problem with the seller of the black car now getting what it is worth and being smart and having the money? You sound jealous. The seller now also did some work to the car to ensure its reliability and to fix some things that were messed up.
 
Almost right, I'm mad not jealous.
I could never buy a car overseas ship it and sell it with a profit as don't even know how to do it. I think it's a quite complicated business and I don't have a clue about it,, so no need to be jealous..
I'm mad because 30k euros is simply ridiculous for a c body. we've already sky high prices for them chargers and roadrunners, why trying to make a high price class out of these cbodies ...
Of course I understand the new owners point of view, it's his job to buy cars and sell it with a profit,so why not trying to milk that cow. I frequently see the cars he offers and he's always fair on the price but that one knocked me off the chair...
If a car like the tx3 300 gets offered in a forum like this and I really want it and some one else gets it, I would be mad because I lost the race but after a couple of days I would deal with it.but if a dealer gets his hands on it first and then tells me,, oh you can have it but the price has doubled" I would go crazy
 
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Marv said:
Almost right, I'm mad not jealous.
I could never buy a car overseas ship it and sell it with a profit as don't even know how to do it. I think it's a quite complicated business and I don't have a clue about it,, so no need to be jealous..
I'm mad because 30k euros is simply ridiculous for a c body. we've already sky high prices for them chargers and roadrunners, why trying to make a high price class out of these cbodies ...
Of course I understand the new owners point of view, it's his job to buy cars and sell it with a profit,so why not trying to milk that cow. I frequently see the cars he offers and he's always fair on the price but that one knocked me off the chair...
If a car like the tx3 300 gets offered in a forum like this and I really want it and some one else gets it, I would be mad because I lost the race but after a couple of days I would deal with it.but if a dealer gets his hands on it first and then tells me,, oh you can have it but the price has doubled" I would go crazy
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If it is not worth the price Carsten and the seller seem to believe people in Germany will pay, why do you folks in Germany pay the prices then? Blame yourselves, not the sellers. The seller is just practicing capitalism. I personally would rather have a C body than a B body, and I have both, even a 69 Charger RT/SE and a 71 Charger R/T and a 71 Roadrunner. You acknowledge you don't know what the current seller goes through. He takes risks buying cars too and sometimes ends up with turds that cost him money to fix and ends up selling them over here, he spends long hours flying all over the country several times a week taking some 300 photos of each car he is employed to inspect, drives them, checks the bodies with a paint/coating thickness meter for rust and bondo, is endlessly on the phone speaking with overseas buyers, some in the German language and some in English, arranges shipping, gets less sleep than is probably good for him, and employs a mechanic each week and pays him well for fixing up a myriad of problems on most cars he sells to ensure the buyers are reasonably happy with them since he seems to have a good rating over there. Yeah, people call him a flipper, and sometimes he does get "lucky" but often he is not and has more problems than most are aware of. But he is high energy, smart and computer savvy so he is successful. If you are mad about the prices he sells some cars for, then you could instead take residence here in the U.S. and go through all the things he does instead of being mad and thereby get to find some plums you could buy for low prices and keep them for yourself over here.

From my perspective, I buy C bodies I like and normally fix them up to a very high standard, but for some time I have been taking a loss in selling some of them to get others that I like better, even overseas. If it weren't for you guys over there paying good prices for these cars, you wouldn't get them, they would instead stay in the U.S. where they were born and are a part of our heritage and I couldn't keep getting cars I like better. I could be mad that I have to sell overseas with all the extra complications, but instead, I am grateful I don't have to take a loss on every one I sell if I had to sell them over here. People had a chance over here to buy the triple black car for $17K too, but I was pretty certain that wouldn't happen, and so did the seller it seems based on the ones that came to his house and looked the car over in person and kicked the tires and then went home with no further replies.
 
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Why the heck 29k € including shipping to Europe is too much money for a 15k miles car what smells brand new inside?
My pre-70 300 Coupe with 64k miles got sold in Germany for 28k € and that's 2 years ago!
Prices go up for good and clean cars because it's too much junk what comes to Europe everyday for cheap.
I'm way more amused about ppl paying 30k+ for b-body rust buckets, only because they watched too much Fast & Furious or McQueen.


Marv said:
Almost right, I'm mad not jealous.
I could never buy a car overseas ship it and sell it with a profit as don't even know how to do it. I think it's a quite complicated business and I don't have a clue about it,, so no need to be jealous..
I'm mad because 30k euros is simply ridiculous for a c body. we've already sky high prices for them chargers and roadrunners, why trying to make a high price class out of these cbodies ...
Of course I understand the new owners point of view, it's his job to buy cars and sell it with a profit,so why not trying to milk that cow. I frequently see the cars he offers and he's always fair on the price but that one knocked me off the chair...
If a car like the tx3 300 gets offered in a forum like this and I really want it and some one else gets it, I would be mad because I lost the race but after a couple of days I would deal with it.but if a dealer gets his hands on it first and then tells me,, oh you can have it but the price has doubled" I would go crazy
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we had this SFGT already a couple of times in here.. it´s located in Italy and gets offered
for 29k euros, I know it´s been a wreck that got a full resto which has not been done correctly
enough to satisfy a true collectors need, but still it´s a white on black SFGT. I have a very hard time
believing that a tx9 300 should be worth more than a 70 SFGT

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plus the 300 is not a pay-30k-and have some fun car... you´ll have to spend 2-3k to get it
home from the port, get the tuv inspection, get it registered and so on and I´m sure it´s still not
finished with that.
15k original miles is a jackpot for a collector, but we don´t have c body or even mopar collectors
in Germany ( besides Carsten ), we just have some guys who own 4-5 cars max, so this car won´t be a static
display collection car but a driver. It has sat for most of his life and that´s a killer for moving and rotating parts.
So the new owner will drive it, and then it´ll start to leak, or overheat or breakdown and he´ll fix it and after 2 months some other part will fail.. and after a while he´ll be tired of that game and will sell it, listing it for 40k euros because that´s the amount he already dumped into it.. and then other fuselage owners who want to sell
will say ,,wait a minute why should I list my new yorker for 14k if he lists his very similar looking 300 for 40k "
so they want 22k for their newyorker and the prices rise...

I KNOW that´s how capitalism works, I know I can´t change it, I know Piots offer will not make the whole market
go crazy I know it all, but I´m still unhappy with it.

And I´m not attaking Piot personally, I know several people who used his service to either get good cars or stay away from bad ones, a friend of mine just did his deal with you and he´s very happy with his white 62 savoy.
And I don´t call Piot a flipper because that word is quite negative to me, he deals with cars and of course he needs
to make profit of it to live, I said it before, all his other offers have good prices, you seem to be one of the rare dealers that really think about a price first before listing the car while we have plenty of dealers in Germany who are selling overpriced bondotrash, advertising it as the best car ever.
And posting a link on facebook to the selling thread is just stupid kindergarten **** by that guy, that was just a weak move, let me clear about that.

But STILL I´m very unhappy or even frustrated with the way the prices develop, and not one of your good and
valid arguments can change that Steve :D maybe it´s because that development keeps me from having a car collection, I don´t know but bottom line is, I´m upset!! :mob:
 
How on earth does that happen to the left front fender!????
 
I don't have any doubts that an original and NOT wrecked tx9 300 with only 15k miles is worth more than a 70 SFGT with x miles what got wrecked and not restored correctly. It's not that attractive for most buyer and original it is just once.
That's why cars with original and overall good paint with a little bit of Patina, will always go for more money than a repainted car...even that car is in somewhat better shape.

I know for a collector car like this low mileage tx9, the buyer circle is small but hey...I'm not in a hurry to sell and these cars won't get cheaper, just gain value.
I never owned a C-Body in better shape than this tx9.
It feels and smells so damn good and everything just feels new.
The right buyer is out there who will appreciate the car just give it a little time.
In my profession as a car scout for my clients overseas, I see ppl buying cars like some rusty VW Bus from the 60's, I never would spend a dime on it.


"And posting a link on facebook to the selling thread is just stupid kindergarten **** by that guy, that was just a weak move, let me clear about that."

Word! I'm totally agree with you! Carsten, you as well? :D :D :D



Marv said:
we had this SFGT already a couple of times in here.. it´s located in Italy and gets offered
for 29k euros, I know it´s been a wreck that got a full resto which has not been done correctly
enough to satisfy a true collectors need, but still it´s a white on black SFGT. I have a very hard time
believing that a tx9 300 should be worth more than a 70 SFGT

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plus the 300 is not a pay-30k-and have some fun car... you´ll have to spend 2-3k to get it
home from the port, get the tuv inspection, get it registered and so on and I´m sure it´s still not
finished with that.
15k original miles is a jackpot for a collector, but we don´t have c body or even mopar collectors
in Germany ( besides Carsten ), we just have some guys who own 4-5 cars max, so this car won´t be a static
display collection car but a driver. It has sat for most of his life and that´s a killer for moving and rotating parts.
So the new owner will drive it, and then it´ll start to leak, or overheat or breakdown and he´ll fix it and after 2 months some other part will fail.. and after a while he´ll be tired of that game and will sell it, listing it for 40k euros because that´s the amount he already dumped into it.. and then other fuselage owners who want to sell
will say ,,wait a minute why should I list my new yorker for 14k if he lists his very similar looking 300 for 40k "
so they want 22k for their newyorker and the prices rise...

I KNOW that´s how capitalism works, I know I can´t change it, I know Piots offer will not make the whole market
go crazy I know it all, but I´m still unhappy with it.

And I´m not attaking Piot personally, I know several people who used his service to either get good cars or stay away from bad ones, a friend of mine just did his deal with you and he´s very happy with his white 62 savoy.
And I don´t call Piot a flipper because that word is quite negative to me, he deals with cars and of course he needs
to make profit of it to live, I said it before, all his other offers have good prices, you seem to be one of the rare dealers that really think about a price first before listing the car while we have plenty of dealers in Germany who are selling overpriced bondotrash, advertising it as the best car ever.
And posting a link on facebook to the selling thread is just stupid kindergarten **** by that guy, that was just a weak move, let me clear about that.

But STILL I´m very unhappy or even frustrated with the way the prices develop, and not one of your good and
valid arguments can change that Steve :D maybe it´s because that development keeps me from having a car collection, I don´t know but bottom line is, I´m upset!! :mob:
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Can someone fill me in on the story of this '71 300 in TX9? Is it the one in Michigan? Any links so I could do some reading?

Dave
 
Piot said:
I'm way more amused about ppl paying 30k+ for b-body rust buckets, only because they watched too much Fast & Furious or McQueen.
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and it is cheap ones...

We have the same debates here about french cars : why prices are going up ?
Because cars are more rare because time passes.
And some cars are more and more attractive than others. Some cars where not known and with internet became famous and desirable ( chargers 68 /69 , coronet 70, all "muscle" in fact ) and c bodies are more and more desirable for people.

i do not think that peope are " trying " to make high price like B bodies.
but good car must be sold at their right price just to keep them that way : i am sure we all saw around us guys that does a good deal for a very good car and do not took car of it, and finally it became a junk. we have to realise that even C bodies are rare now and are very good cars they are basically the same as muscle car in fact.
it is normal to have a huge gap in $ between a very good car and a daily driver a a "good car " . wrok and effort to got from one to another can be huge to.
there will always be a diffrence in price between US and other countries it is like that.
 
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It’s a lovable car in what I think is a nice color (would prefer white vinyl tho). A console car, bucket seats, A/C PS, 8-Track, Cruise, original owner and claimed low mileage are all benefits. Even the washer fluid bottle is intact. Surprised it doesn’t have power brakes or power windows.

The fender damage is definitely a draw back and as another member has mentioned the bubbling under the vinyl - for this price point is unacceptable. Although it’s a Car out of Arizona - given the bubbling under the top I think it’s safe to say the rest of the body will need a closer inspection.
 
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