Cause of weak spectator turnout at Carlisle?
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Analog Kid
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They weren't checking - at least not when we went through on Saturday with 3 in the car. I saw other cars with more than two people as well.
They were just trying to get cars in as fast as possible....I can only imagine how much longer the line would be to get in if they had to collect admission at the gate.
rapidtrans
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Isn't the E-bod the featured vehicle EVERY year?
He gets it!
And every E is a one of one car don't cha know.
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
That's why I mentioned wristbands everyone in the car has/flashes the wristband as being waved through. Someone with no band in the car pull over here and pay, the rest keep moving.
Another thought:
I'm guessing that the modern "SRT" cars now make up 20-25% (your guesstimate may vary) of the display field and other activity at Carlisle. Those younger guys are certainly NOT prowling around the vendor areas looking for oldly, moldy, rusty parts for their cars. Their eyes are on the Midway vendors and their cells to mouse-click for mountains of aftermarket parts.
And if you think about it, 50 years ago guys with brand-new muscle cars were going to speed shops and Honest Charley catalogs to spend their money. They were not going to swap meets during that time period like the prior generation of "hod rodders" were still doing....who were looking for oldy, moldy, rusty 40/50s car parts.
Did any of us go look at the hundreds of nearly identical Challengers and Chargers? I certainly didn't.
Passing of the guard. History does repeat itself.
I'm guessing that the modern "SRT" cars now make up 20-25% (your guesstimate may vary) of the display field and other activity at Carlisle. Those younger guys are certainly NOT prowling around the vendor areas looking for oldly, moldy, rusty parts for their cars. Their eyes are on the Midway vendors and their cells to mouse-click for mountains of aftermarket parts.
And if you think about it, 50 years ago guys with brand-new muscle cars were going to speed shops and Honest Charley catalogs to spend their money. They were not going to swap meets during that time period like the prior generation of "hod rodders" were still doing....who were looking for oldy, moldy, rusty 40/50s car parts.
Did any of us go look at the hundreds of nearly identical Challengers and Chargers? I certainly didn't.
Passing of the guard. History does repeat itself.
twostick
Senior Member
I just missed the group photo. Traffic was nuts. Our accommodations were just over a mile away and it took over 30 minutes to get to the show and get parked.
I thought other years that they had traffic control at the intersections but this year they just let the traffic lights control it. Cars were backed up all the way to Hanover St. I don't remember ever having to wait anywhere other than the entrance to the fairgrounds themselves and it at least kept moving.
Vendors I talked to said it was backwards this year. Friday was nuts and Saturday was slower.
Kevin
Ripinator
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300rag
It's Not Going to Shift Itself
You gonna get some facial piercings too?
I formed the impression that there were definitely fewer people than last year. Part of it may have been the weather, which was a smidgen less hot than last year (beautiful in both cases -- you guys can thank me for starting to come 
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My experience coming in was that was also _much_ easier getting in than last year, though the difference may have been cause by my arriving a bit later than last year. My missing the group photo had little to do with traffic and all to do with getting folks out of bed.
As for checking passengers: on Friday, when I had 3 passengers, both of the rear passengers had their e-passes scanned. I came alone on Saturday, and did not pay any attention -- I was just waved through with the sticker.
As for gray hair: @71Polara383 and @Analog Kid don't have any that I could tell, and neither do several other folks on and off the picture -- so there is hope!
)My experience coming in was that was also _much_ easier getting in than last year, though the difference may have been cause by my arriving a bit later than last year. My missing the group photo had little to do with traffic and all to do with getting folks out of bed.
As for checking passengers: on Friday, when I had 3 passengers, both of the rear passengers had their e-passes scanned. I came alone on Saturday, and did not pay any attention -- I was just waved through with the sticker.
As for gray hair: @71Polara383 and @Analog Kid don't have any that I could tell, and neither do several other folks on and off the picture -- so there is hope!
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Ripinator
Old Man with a Hat
Maybe the tip of my tongue. . .
70bigblockdodge
Old Man with a Hat
The real problem is there is a hole in the classic car market. There are no Chrysler products that were made in the 80s that appeal to the 30 something's that will be prepping for empty nest longing for what was a used car when they were kids. Let's be honest the cars of the 80s we're very disposable. When they got these cars as used up POS it not much to have a car not worth fixing pretty quick. There is definitely going to be a dead spot in the swap side in the next 10 years. Hope all you old guys hang on long enough till my kids generation takes over restoring 2005 300s
Very good point, completely agree.
And I had an 85 and 90 Daytona Turbos back then, along with my 71 Cuda.
I formed the impression that there were definitely fewer people than last year. Part of it may have been the weather, which was a smidgen less hot than last year (beautiful in both cases -- you guys can thank me for starting to come
My experience coming in was that was also _much_ easier getting in than last year, though the difference may have been cause by my arriving a bit later than last year. My missing the group photo had little to do with traffic and all to do with getting folks out of bed.
As for checking passengers: on Friday, when I had 3 passengers, both of the rear passengers had their e-passes scanned. I came alone on Saturday, and did not pay any attention -- I was just waved through with the sticker.
As for gray hair: @71Polara383 and @Analog Kid don't have any that I could tell, and neither do several other folks on and off the picture -- so there is hope!
I've got zero gray on the roof .... several kids under 30 stopped by to say hi who are on this board .
Well fella's,
The L Platform (2005-Present) is going to be the next collector car craze in the next 10-20 years.
Especially the SRT models with the 6.1L, 6.2L, and the 6.4L engines.
You can get an early Hellcat (with a 6 speed) that are in great shape for $45k-$50k now.
The L Platform (2005-Present) is going to be the next collector car craze in the next 10-20 years.
Especially the SRT models with the 6.1L, 6.2L, and the 6.4L engines.
You can get an early Hellcat (with a 6 speed) that are in great shape for $45k-$50k now.
A couple of observations. As said, Friday seemed busier than Saturday, but Saturday traffic into the fairgrounds was nuts. It took 45 minutes to get in from where I turn onto Rt 11 near the Army Barracks.
The staff at the gate seemed to be a bit lax in controlling the flow and the cop at the corner from Rt 11 onto Clay St was just sitting in his car rather than working the corner.
The staff at the gate seemed to be a bit lax in controlling the flow and the cop at the corner from Rt 11 onto Clay St was just sitting in his car rather than working the corner.
I noticed that there was a gigantic cluster - F at gate 3 Saturday morning. Gate 3 is suppose to be the Gate-N-Go. I saw them selling entrance tickets, acting as an info booth, and other crap instead of keeping the traffic moving in the gate.
The same route at the same time Friday only took me 10 minutes from the Turnpike to the C-Body line. I knew better and left the hotel almost 2 hours early to make the 10:00 photo shoot.
The same route at the same time Friday only took me 10 minutes from the Turnpike to the C-Body line. I knew better and left the hotel almost 2 hours early to make the 10:00 photo shoot.
tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
When I saw the title of the thread, before reading the thread, one word popped into my mind as in word association..... DEATH
The big Ford event that I used to go to for many years died off around 2013 leaving only the one in So Cal at Knotts Berry Farm I believe. The Mopar event up here I believe is still going on but had to move due to construction. The new location has zero shade and in June San Jose many times will have temps in the high 80s to low 90s and no way to get out of the sun. So I don't go.
The other reason I don't miss them is that the Ford event was half Mustangs with half of them newer than 1985 and the older ones modified so few originals. The crowd was mostly senior to me, especially Galaxie and T-bird owners, except for newer Mustang owners. As for the Mopar show most cars were most all A, B and E bodies with all having 383 or 440 engines by coincidence.
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tbm3fan
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