Best method of Pulling the engine in my 67 newport

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I'm going to be pulling the engine and trans from my 67 newport to do some work on it. I will be doing this alone in my driveway. My question is should I hoist it out up and over the radiator support like normal or should I remove the front clip and hoist out or remove everything and roll the subframe out so I can do the suspension at the same time?

Suggestions are welcome....it's been 20 yrs since I pulled an engine and only on b bodies.
 
I'm going to be pulling the engine and trans from my 67 newport to do some work on it. I will be doing this alone in my driveway. My question is should I hoist it out up and over the radiator support like normal or should I remove the front clip and hoist out or remove everything and roll the subframe out so I can do the suspension at the same time?

Suggestions are welcome....it's been 20 yrs since I pulled an engine and only on b bodies.

Of course, it would be nice to pull the stub frame out with the engine, trans and suspension at the same time, but if you don't need to do that right now, you would be further ahead by unbolting the transmission and then lift the engine up and over the radiator support. GET THIS BOOK:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557881901/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It has a step-by-step procedure for doing exactly what you are trying to do.
 
Much easier to take it out the top with the hood off. This Newport is a big car and lots of room.

For your project to go smoothly and for us to help you please answer these questions:
How long do I want the car down?
How much money do I want to spend?
Do I need front end work?
Do I need transmission work?
What do I want to use this car for, how nice do I want it?

I’m new on this site and you might have already posted the answers to these questions, so I apologize if this is a repeat for you.
 
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with my 300 vert, i did the basic same thing you are contemplating...I removed the hood and pulled the engine and transmission out over the radiator / support using a engine hoist. I did, however, do this at a dyi auto repair shop in one of their lift bays. That made it super-easy to get to the under car stuff...raised the car up, disconnected everything needed to pull the engine.

My advice, other than be careful as the engine (mine was a 440 / 727 combo) is VERY heavy, is if you are going to pull the whole thing, spend whatever you need to rebuild it all, both engine and transmission as it is a ton of work removing and reinstalling that stuff. Doable in your driveway...so think about what you are willing / able to spend on rebuilding / referbing before you stuff the package back into the car.

I had both the engine and trans rebuilt before reinstall.

good luck!

p.s. I did not have the space at home nor the time at the diy shop to pull the front clip off...so over the rad support it came!
 
Per my other thread I'm not planning on rebuilding it right now. I going to do the timing chain, freeze plugs and flush the block, trans pump seals and rear seal, push rods and intake pan, motor and trans mounts, scour and repaint everything. In the coming months I will do the front UCA bushings and ball joints, LCA bushings and wheel bearings. Everything else is solid. The engine runs good and has no major issues to justify the expense of rebuilding it yet. The trans seems good too....just replacing the seals while it's out to avoid future issues. I'm not planning on being down for more than a couple weeks at this time, but doing what I can while I'm in there.
 
Oh...and pulling the oil pan to repair that, and dropping the trans pan to replace the filter and gasket there too. I will probably look at the mains for wear but not sure I want to break them free since it runs good now. Of course this means scrubbing the engine bay of all grease and oil too.
 
So I'm looking at the engine bay trying to plan this out...soaking every bolt in penetrating oil.....(found the source of my front end clunk...bad UCA bushing)...and I'm wondering can I remove the front bumper and radiator support without removing the fenders? This would make it much easier to pull it.
 
This is what I wrote in another thread. I just copied it to save some typing.

First is to buy yourself an engine leveler. Yea, we've all done the job without one, but it does make things easier if you are pulling the trans at the same time. An engine stand is also a very good investment.

Second is the torsion bars..... The way the trans mount is built in a C body, it's an integral part of the rear torsion bar mount in the stub frame. To do it right, the torsion bar adjustment needs to be backed off so there is no tension on the torsion bars. Then you can remove the trans crossmember safely. If you don't do this, the tension will try to twist the rear of the stub frame and if there's any weakness from rust, it can possibly twist the frame into a pretzel... If nothing else, it makes removal and installation much easier.

So... My procedure is basically this....

Remove radiator and engine accessories (alternator, P/S pump etc.). With a big block car, I like to remove the water pump housing as it gives me more room. Take the fan off as a minimum. I like to remove the lower pulley too, but some people don't. Disconnect the carb linkage. Remove the carb so you don't break it. Good time to bolt the leveler on the engine.

Remove hood.

Jack the car up and place jack stands under the frame about where the firewall is.

Unbolt the exhaust head pipes from the manifolds. The head pipes can stay in the car.

I personally think that if you don't need to pull the trans, leave it in the car.... I would unbolt the converter from the flex plate, push the converter back in the bell housing as far as it goes and place a pair of vise grips on the lower part of the bellhousing to keep the converter from sliding forward.

Get the hoist in position.

From here, this is leaving the trans in the car.

Place a floor jack under the trans pan and unbolt the trans. I like to leave a couple loose bolts in the bellhousing that I can reach from above.

Remove the motor mount bolts.

Take up the tension on the hoist and remove the loose bellhousing bolts.

Pull the engine...

Once it's out, you can cut a 2 x 4 so it lays across the torsion bars and drill a couple holes (they can be big and sloppy) so you can slide a couple bolts in the bellhousing and then you can take the jack out from under the trans, allowing you to move the car etc.

If you want to remove the trans at the same time, just remove the driveshaft, speedo cable, cooler lines and back off the torsion bars. Put the hoist in place and place a floor jack under the trans. Remove the rear mount/crossmember. Place an old driveshaft yoke in the trans or, if you don't have one, put a plastic bag and rubber bands around the tailshaft. This will keep trans fluid from making a mess on the floor when you pull it out.

Take up the tension on the hoist and remove the motor mount bolts and pull the engine. The leveler will let you angle the engine so the trans can get by the firewall. Watch the tailshaft of the trans once it's out. It gets swinging and can take a windshield out or dent a cowl up.

I think that's about it... Just never get under the engine once it's unbolted and supported only by the hoist. Take it slow and stop and check everything often as it comes up. Lower the engine when moving the hoist once it's clear of the car. Common sense goes a long way...

Oh... and make sure that you have enough travel in the hoist and chain to lift the engine up far enough AND lower the engine/trans combo to the ground... I've made this mistake! This is another reason that leaving the trans in the car can work out better... You only have to lower the engine to engine stand height if there's no trans attached.

Engine leveler.

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I had no idea about the trans mount being integral to the subframe...that's a very good thing to know. It wasn't on my coronet. I want to pull the trans so I can replace the seals, clean and paint it...making sure to leave the front mating surface bare for grounding.
 
I didn’t even have to remove my hood when I pulled the 440 out of my imperial but the heads were off already so that might have made that possible. Which means that I must have waited to put the heads on until after the long block was back in place.
 
The way the trans mount is built in a C body, it's an integral part of the rear torsion bar mount in the stub frame. To do it right, the torsion bar adjustment needs to be backed off so there is no tension on the torsion bars. Then you can remove the trans crossmember safely. If you don't do this, the tension will try to twist the rear of the stub frame and if there's any weakness from rust, it can possibly twist the frame into a pretzel... If nothing else, it makes removal and installation much easier.

You're doing the Lord's work to mention this. I remember giving the same advice and was told that I was a crazy cat-lady, that could never happen, etc. Yet it does happen.

It can also be done this way.

 
You're doing the Lord's work to mention this. I remember giving the same advice and was told that I was a crazy cat-lady, that could never happen, etc. Yet it does happen.

It can also be done this way.


I think I will choose to avoid that particular method...lol
 
Got it pulled out today...removed the hood and it came right out with little issue. cleaning it next, then the work begins.

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Do you need to back off the torsion bars if you aren't taking out the transmission when you pull the engine?
 
Just wondering, I've been reading all the tips and tricks for pulling the engine. I'm pulling mine on Sunday.

I mentioned earlier in this thread, GET THIS BOOK:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1557881901/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It has a step-by-step procedure for doing exactly what you are trying to do. I followed it when I swapped out a 383 for a 440 in my '66, and it made the job much easier than I thought it would be. Many very helpful little tips and techniques.
 
support the bellhousing with a rope or chain before you unhook the flexplate and pull away the engine its only in there by the tail and where it attaches to the block.

try not to die -

- saylor
 
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