When are you considered old?

X2 Scotty

X2 Scotty. My Bad for starting it and I can't use the "I'm old" excuse, Jer

Par for the course that is FCBO :p

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So what do you guy's think, at what age are you old? I just turned 50 today so am I actually old now to go with my old man with a hat status? When I was in my teen's I thought 50 was old, but now that I am 50, 85 or 90 looks old.
Is it just a matter of your only as old as you feel? Any thoughts?

I knew I was old when other men began to address me as: "Sir."
 
Living here I feel the trick is staying active through the winters.
Love the slopes up at Boyne Mtn. I know I’m getting there when I can last all day without the hamstrings burning up. Now I’m retired mid-week skiing saves me enough to buy all the milf types apre-ski drinks.:rolleyes:
 
Lots of reactions, so it's a topic that keeps people grumbling ...

One reference and two personal observations:

Reference:
It was on one of these occasions that Holmes, then ninety-two, paused to gaze in frank admiration at a beautiful young girl who passed them. He even turned to look at her as she continued down the street. Then, turning to Brandeis, he sighed: “Ah! What wouldn’t I give to be seventy again!”

Personal observation 1:
On my first Soviet Union trip, during a night train run from Moscow to Leningrad I encountered a young and slightly drunk American tourist in tears because he had just turned thirty.

Personal observation 2:
My now 60-year-old bones do feel rusty now and then and in the morning they don't move like they should, but when I'm on my 20-mile bicycle run to my workplace, boy, do I feel young! Nothing can stop me!

Returning to Russia: Vladimir Vysockij once sang "Everything is relative".
 
When you like your 68 Fury convertible more than your A34 440 Six Pack console 4 speed 4:10 1970 Coronet R/T.
I think I am there!
 
So what do you guy's think, at what age are you old? I just turned 50 today so am I actually old now to go with my old man with a hat status? When I was in my teen's I thought 50 was old, but now that I am 50, 85 or 90 looks old.
Is it just a matter of your only as old as you feel? Any thoughts?
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My first apprentice. The kid just graduated HS, he drove a $50 escort with a $500 stereo (I still haven't invested that much into a single sound system). The car broke at least once every week, usually another alternator or battery from the stereo. He drove slow and didn't care if the car was fast as long as the music was loud.

My second apprentice. The kid had a beater 4 door parisienne. He spent multiple minimum wage paychecks to buy big wheels and tires. To fit said wheels the "expert" at the wheel store ground metal off the control arms at the ball joint. He never did tune that car up, so it never really ran very well... :realcrazy:

That's when I decided I was old and the younger generation had screwed up priorities. :lol:
 
I do Bill. But like I don't have my baby tooth, my first cap pistol iz long gone too but I can still remember playin' with it, lol
I can remember beating them with a rock against the sidewalk. If you hit it just right you could explode the whole roll with one hit. It's a wonder none of us got hurt!
 
I can remember beating them with a rock against the sidewalk. If you hit it just right you could explode the whole roll with one hit. It's a wonder none of us got hurt!

I hammer worked pretty well also!
Imagine a couple 7 yr old kids doing that today.
 
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My first apprentice. The kid just graduated HS, he drove a $50 escort with a $500 stereo (I still haven't invested that much into a single sound system). The car broke at least once every week, usually another alternator or battery from the stereo. He drove slow and didn't care if the car was fast as long as the music was loud.

My second apprentice. The kid had a beater 4 door parisienne. He spent multiple minimum wage paychecks to buy big wheels and tires. To fit said wheels the "expert" at the wheel store ground metal off the control arms at the ball joint. He never did tune that car up, so it never really ran very well... :realcrazy:

That's when I decided I was old and the younger generation had screwed up priorities. :lol:

I remember the first 'Amber Alert' well they hadn't penned that phrase yet, was back in the early 90's back when the bright idea (cheap) of lowering your vehicle was to put go-kart size wheels on it. aaaYep you guessed right, there was no way the the inner rim would clear the disc rotor or caliper so the whole wheel was offset outside the hub, big seller to the young high-schoolers at 'Wheels-A-Million'. Looked completely stupid as they went down the road, more idiotic than the 'Camber Crowd', but what can you do in a state with no vehicle inspection laws. Fast forward about 10 months into this craze and we get a BOLO on the weekend 6 O'clock news, looking for 2 young lads that hadn't come home from a Friday night out of high school fun in their little Honda, even had a stock photo of the car. Think they were from the western part of Volusia County or maybe Seminole County, rural area back then, tight knit, had a group of locals out scouring the countryside with no luck. Come Sundays night news, the father of the kid that owned the car was driving home on the rural state road that they lived on and noticed the brush was disturbed as if a car had gone off the road so he stops to investigate. As he searches around the path of disturbed brush he finds a rim and tire that was broken off at the hub that looks just like the go-kart size wheels his son put on his car recently. He finds that the path the car took leads down to the lake, gets on the phone and calls out the posse, sure enough they find the car in the lake with the two kids drowned in it. Seems that craze disappeared after that, don't know if the 'Wheels-A-Million' got sued but I'll bet they did.

Then there were others that come to the conclusion the turning the rear leaf springs upside down on their Toyocrap compact pickup to lower it really wasn't a smart thing to do...

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I came in the house last Saturday night and my youngest who turned 21 in Sept was drinking a beer with his brother. I say what are you doing, he replies did you forget I am 21??? Then adds does that make you feel old?
 
23...

My first apprentice. The kid just graduated HS, he drove a $50 escort with a $500 stereo (I still haven't invested that much into a single sound system). The car broke at least once every week, usually another alternator or battery from the stereo. He drove slow and didn't care if the car was fast as long as the music was loud.

My second apprentice. The kid had a beater 4 door parisienne. He spent multiple minimum wage paychecks to buy big wheels and tires. To fit said wheels the "expert" at the wheel store ground metal off the control arms at the ball joint. He never did tune that car up, so it never really ran very well... :realcrazy:

That's when I decided I was old and the younger generation had screwed up priorities. :lol:
We have a young guy coming in the shop that wants to be a mechanic, he wants to learn. He went to a school, but from what he knows it sure wasn't UTI or Lincoln. He has a long way to go and a lot to learn.
 
We have a young guy coming in the shop that wants to be a mechanic, he wants to learn. He went to a school, but from what he knows it sure wasn't UTI or Lincoln. He has a long way to go and a lot to learn.
My first two came into it because of limited options, they were available and pumping gas vs I needed help and the owner refused to hire anyone older than me, to work with me. He felt that I wouldn't be able to control an older tech and I was running things to his satisfaction. I couldn't afford to give them much slack, but I am proud that they continued on from there. One went to a dealer after a few years, the other wound up managing a dealer parts counter.

The last young fella I took under my wing lacked the confidence and knowledge to perform an oil change and courtesy inspection. Turned out he was the top of his class at the local Vo-Tech program. Everybody asked "what are they teaching you?" so often it was ridiculous.

If you take on the youngster... get him driving on the lift and setting pads, but not going up without an inspection and show him where he does wrong. Have him inspect stuff, even if it isn't part of the task and show him what he is looking for (Shake out a front end, check brakes because the wheels are off, etc). He will be a true grunt at first,and may not appreciate the lack of confidence the double checking shows... but in a little while he will either gain enough of your confidence to check the lift after the car is up... or you' have to let him go elsewhere with a little more knowledge.

If he works out, you'll have someone to help save your back for a couple of years while he is learning to perform shop tasks. Unfortunately, the diagnostic training he received, whatever it was, is probably going to be lost as masters "righty tighty...". If he gets far enough, he can learn to use his DMM with a book and a little guidance. I learned alot of mine with a 72 FSM and a 73 Charger with a toasted column harness. A spool of red wire and a fist full of cheap butt splices later I had the beginnings of a car... and a deeper appreciation of color coded wires.
 
I started looking at H.S. kids for our intern spots. Give them a feel for engineering and see if they’re really interested in learning the industry. Those that show an interest would get tuition paid by the company. Get em early. The longer they’re on a college campus the more distant from reality they become. We found too many college age interns thought they already knew it all and no “old man” , direct quote, could teach them anything. His GM exec dad couldn’t understand why his kid wasn’t invited back the next summer. I could not believe how many college grads could not handle travel reservations. Apparently mom had to handle those things.
 
I was always told, you are old when you go to take a **** and your balls touch the water!!
 
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