Ed Wagner
Member
I know for the Chevy Tri-fives, they has very detailed production numbers available. But so they have those for Mopar as well? I'm just curious what the numbers are for 1970, different body styles.
Production numbers question
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Unlike the A/B/E cars where there are solid production number records,most C body records were lost in a fire years ago.
There are some members here that may have some further information.
Others created a registry for certain make and models to document the cars still in existence.
There are some members here that may have some further information.
Others created a registry for certain make and models to document the cars still in existence.
Thankss for clarifying that!
Old Mike
Well-Known Member
From Chrysler and Imperial:The Postwar Years by Richard M. Langworth, published 1976, appendix 2:
Production 1970
Newport FC-E
21,644 2-door hardtop includes 1866 Cordobas
1,124 convertible
39,285 4-door sedans including 1873 Cordobas
16,949 4-door hardtop
Newport Custom FC-L
6,639 2-door hardtop
13,767 4-door sedan
10,873 4-door hardtop
300 FC-M
10,084 2-door hardtop
1,077 convertible
9,846 4-door hardtop
New Yorker FC-H
4,917 2-door hardtop
9,389 4-door sedan
19,903 4-door hardtop
Town & Country FC-P
5,686 wagon 2-seat
9,583 wagon 3-seat
Imperial Crown FY-L
254 2-door hardtop
1,333 4-door hardtop
Imperial FY-M
1,803 2-door hardtop
8,426 4-door hardtop
The acknowledgments state this book is in the Library of Congress. I’ve had this since new.
Production 1970
Newport FC-E
21,644 2-door hardtop includes 1866 Cordobas
1,124 convertible
39,285 4-door sedans including 1873 Cordobas
16,949 4-door hardtop
Newport Custom FC-L
6,639 2-door hardtop
13,767 4-door sedan
10,873 4-door hardtop
300 FC-M
10,084 2-door hardtop
1,077 convertible
9,846 4-door hardtop
New Yorker FC-H
4,917 2-door hardtop
9,389 4-door sedan
19,903 4-door hardtop
Town & Country FC-P
5,686 wagon 2-seat
9,583 wagon 3-seat
Imperial Crown FY-L
254 2-door hardtop
1,333 4-door hardtop
Imperial FY-M
1,803 2-door hardtop
8,426 4-door hardtop
The acknowledgments state this book is in the Library of Congress. I’ve had this since new.
The Goose
Senior Member
I think you mean parted out...
Yeah good way to put it. The fire story is a rumor that has been around a long long time.
Guys that were there say they were trashed when liquidating assets. The fire story is an easy way to close up the discussion.
"The Standard Book of Chrysler" also has production figures, mainly by the model year and model, without the detailed installation rate of colors/options that can be found in the B/E-body cars.
I understand that much of what was in Chrysler Historical before the financial issues was moved off-site by the man who oversaw that department. When things were safe again, he moved them back and was heralded for saving much of Chrysler's history in the process. Seems like he passed away about 10 years ago?
Unfortunately, many of the car companies purged their archives when they needed room for more modern vehicle records. You had to know it was going to happen or be near a dumpster before the truck arrived, as was the case with lots of early Buick items. Or just got lucky to find them before the garbage truck arrived.
Just some thoughts,
CBODY67
That's just idiotic, surely they could've given the files and documents to car clubs/museums.
But they didn't ( in Chrysler's case anyway)
Bill Watson
Active Member
I have figures for models built for the US market. Do not have production figures for cars built for Canada or Export.
Model
Number Series Body Style USA Series
FDK-41 Polara Police 4dr Sedan * 1,732
1,732
FDT-41 Polara Taxi 4dr Sedan * 145
145
FDE-41 Polara Special 4dr Sedan * 5,977
FDE-45 Polara Special 4dr Wagon, 6p * 530
FDE-46 Polara Special 4dr Wagon, 9p * 454
6,961
FDL-41 Polara 4dr Sedan 14,184
FDL-23 Polara 2dr Hardtop * 11,447
FDL-43 Polara 4dr Hardtop * 15,714
FDL-27 Polara 2dr Convertible 696
FDL-45 Polara 4dr Wagon, 6p 3,057
FDL-46 Polara 4dr Wagon, 9p 3,521
48,619
FDM-41 Polara Custom 4dr Sedan 3,746
FDM-23 Polara Custom 2dr Hardtop 4,053
FDM-43 Polara Custom 4dr Hardtop * 3,419
FDM-45 Polara Custom 4dr Wagon, 6p # 0
FDM-46 Polara Custom 4dr Wagon, 9p # 0
11,218
FDH-41 Monaco 4dr Sedan 4,654
FDH-23 Monaco 2dr Hardtop 3,322
FDH-43 Monaco 4dr Hardtop 10,849
FDH-45 Monaco 4dr Wagon, 6p 2,204
FDH-46 Monaco 4dr Wagon, 9p 3,209
24,238
FDP-41 Monaco 500 4dr Sedan # 0
FDP-23 Monaco 500 2dr Hardtop # 0
FDP-43 Monaco 500 4dr Hardtop # 0
0
TOTAL - 92,913
* - Built for U.S. market only
# - Built for Canadian market only
Brougham - Option package available on Monaco models in U.S.
and on Monaco 500 models in Canada
Ed Wagner
Member
Thanks guys! Mine is 4-door hardtop Newport Custom.
cbarge mentioned that someone(s) may have a registry of cars that still exist. I'd be interested in adding mine to that registry. Im looking around - my dad says the window sticker should still exists because he saves everything. I found the brochure they got from the dealer!
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cbarge mentioned that someone(s) may have a registry of cars that still exist. I'd be interested in adding mine to that registry. Im looking around - my dad says the window sticker should still exists because he saves everything. I found the brochure they got from the dealer!
Bill Watson
Active Member
Total Polara convertibles built was 842 - 696 for USA and 146 in Canada or Export
Polara Taxi, Polara Police, and Polara Special models built only for USA.
In Canada Taxi and Police packages were offered on Polara models.
Polara Special (mid-year intro - US market) had slant six as an option package.
Monaco 500 series is Canada only.
No Monaco or Monaco 500 convertibles were built for 1970.
In Canada slant six engine available on Polara sedan, Polara Custom sedan and 2 door hardtop. Should be separate production figures for those three models.
Production by Assembly Plant :
Market Belvidere Newark USA Windsor TOTAL
USA 63,112 15,080 78,192 14,721 92,913
CDN 12,176 1,456 13,632 3,687 17,319
TOTAL 75,288 16,536 91,824 18,408 110,232
Polara Taxi, Polara Police, and Polara Special models built only for USA.
In Canada Taxi and Police packages were offered on Polara models.
Polara Special (mid-year intro - US market) had slant six as an option package.
Monaco 500 series is Canada only.
No Monaco or Monaco 500 convertibles were built for 1970.
In Canada slant six engine available on Polara sedan, Polara Custom sedan and 2 door hardtop. Should be separate production figures for those three models.
Production by Assembly Plant :
Market Belvidere Newark USA Windsor TOTAL
USA 63,112 15,080 78,192 14,721 92,913
CDN 12,176 1,456 13,632 3,687 17,319
TOTAL 75,288 16,536 91,824 18,408 110,232
In more modern times, I suspect the inclination would be to pass-off the files (or numbers there-in) to some interested parties to archive and put on the Net. BUI back then, having a single-line telephone was about as high-tech as it got. So about the only people who cared about "numbers" were the accountants, divisional managers, and respective plant managers. Back when there were just "cars" and "trucks" (especially in Chevy's realm of things). In other words, only well-placed people had access to "the numbers", usually. Then they'd use the prior model year's numbers to predict what they'd need for the up-coming year's production mix or models and options. Once all of the data analysis had been done, no need for "the numbers" any more. When the files got full, what was in them went somewhere else. Probably depended upon whom was making those decisions that day. Not unlike a dealer chuinking-out the prior model year's brochures, data books, and special dealer-advisory letters when the new models came out. Always focusing on the present and future rather than the past.
Be that as it may,
CBODY67
Bill Watson
Active Member
If you look at the published figures for the Chrysler Corporation cars you will find that Plymouth, DeSoto, Chrysler and Imperial are in place from 1930 through to the late 1970's. Dodge is the one with missing coverage, going only to 1955, plus the 1956 Coronet.
Don Butler was working on his "Plymouth and DeSoto Story" (1977) in the mid-1970's, as was Jerry Heasley with his book, "The Production Figure Book for U.S. Cars" (1977). Jerry Heasley thanked Don Butler for the production information for Plymouth, Dodge, and DeSoto through 1955 in the Acknowledgements of his book, which is as far as Mr. Heasley went for those makes in his book. Richard M. Langworth published the 1946 to 1975 figures in his book, "The Postwar Years - Chrysler & Imperial" (1977). George H. Dammann published his book, "70 Years of Chrysler" (1974) and had production figures from 1930 to 1973.
And it all came together with the "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-1975", John A. Gunnell, Editor. The book had production numbers for Chrysler Corporation through to and including 1975 - except for Dodge which had production figures only to 1955.
"The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1976-1999" had production figures for the Chrysler Corporation cars from 1976 to 1989. From 1990 the figures were totals by body style. For example, the 1990 Dodge Monaco had two 4 door sedan models - LE and ES. The combined total of 1990 Monaco sedans came to 7,153. No further breakdown was presented .
As for the missing Dodge figures from 1956 through to 1975, they are known and some have been published - in Collectible Automobile. They have presented production figures for 1955-56, 1957-59, 1960-61, 1962-64 Dodge models plus the 880 models. Figures were presented as courtesy Chrysler Historical. Nothing on Lancer (1961-62) or A-body Dart, but other models after 1965 have appeared. Although not C body.
The Chrysler edition of the Standard Catalog has Dodge production figures for 1970 and up (1970-71 Polara and Monaco is incomplete) but nothing for 1956-1958, 1960-1964 (except the 880 models) and 1974-75.
And absolutely nothing for Canadian production. But I'm sure Chrysler Historical has that, too.
I've got Chrysler Corporation production for the U.S. market from 1965 to 1973. I have the 1974 report, sort of, but whoever did the copying did not notice that the report was double sided. Thus I have only the odd number pages for 1974.
So I am sure there are production numbers for Dodge out there, and at Chrysler Historical. Just need someone to dig them out.
Don Butler was working on his "Plymouth and DeSoto Story" (1977) in the mid-1970's, as was Jerry Heasley with his book, "The Production Figure Book for U.S. Cars" (1977). Jerry Heasley thanked Don Butler for the production information for Plymouth, Dodge, and DeSoto through 1955 in the Acknowledgements of his book, which is as far as Mr. Heasley went for those makes in his book. Richard M. Langworth published the 1946 to 1975 figures in his book, "The Postwar Years - Chrysler & Imperial" (1977). George H. Dammann published his book, "70 Years of Chrysler" (1974) and had production figures from 1930 to 1973.
And it all came together with the "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1946-1975", John A. Gunnell, Editor. The book had production numbers for Chrysler Corporation through to and including 1975 - except for Dodge which had production figures only to 1955.
"The Standard Catalog of American Cars 1976-1999" had production figures for the Chrysler Corporation cars from 1976 to 1989. From 1990 the figures were totals by body style. For example, the 1990 Dodge Monaco had two 4 door sedan models - LE and ES. The combined total of 1990 Monaco sedans came to 7,153. No further breakdown was presented .
As for the missing Dodge figures from 1956 through to 1975, they are known and some have been published - in Collectible Automobile. They have presented production figures for 1955-56, 1957-59, 1960-61, 1962-64 Dodge models plus the 880 models. Figures were presented as courtesy Chrysler Historical. Nothing on Lancer (1961-62) or A-body Dart, but other models after 1965 have appeared. Although not C body.
The Chrysler edition of the Standard Catalog has Dodge production figures for 1970 and up (1970-71 Polara and Monaco is incomplete) but nothing for 1956-1958, 1960-1964 (except the 880 models) and 1974-75.
And absolutely nothing for Canadian production. But I'm sure Chrysler Historical has that, too.
I've got Chrysler Corporation production for the U.S. market from 1965 to 1973. I have the 1974 report, sort of, but whoever did the copying did not notice that the report was double sided. Thus I have only the odd number pages for 1974.
So I am sure there are production numbers for Dodge out there, and at Chrysler Historical. Just need someone to dig them out.
anything on 70 Plymouths?
Bill Watson
Active Member
1970 Plymouth Fury - Production for United States Market
Code - Make - Body Style - 6 - V8 : Total
PK Plymouth Fury Police
2dr Patroller Sedan 6 - 25 V8 - 451 : 476
4dr Patroller Sedan 6 - 24 V8 - 13,020 : 13,024
4dr Patroller Wagon 6 - 4 V8 - 492 : 496
TOTAL 6 - 33 V8 - 13,963 : 13,996
PT Plymouth Fury Taxi
4dr Sedan 6 - 773 V8 - 989 : 1,762
TOTAL - 6 - 773 V8 - 989 : 1,762
PE Plymouth Fury I
2dr Sedan 6 - 599 1 V8 - 1,280 : 1,879
4dr Sedan 6 - 1,448 - V8 - 8,544 : 9,992
TOTAL - 6 - 2,047 V8 - 9,824 : 11,871
PL Plymouth Fury II
2dr Sedan 6 - 81 V8- 20,998 : 21,079
4dr Sedan 6 - 388 V8 - 23,744 : 24,132
2dr Hardtop - Not sold in USA
4dr Suburban Wagon, 2st - 6 - 99 V8 - 4,303 - 4,402
4dr Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 2,002
TOTAL - 6 - 568 - V8 - 51,047 Total 51,615
PM Plymouth Fury III
4dr Sedan 6 - 46 - V8 - 48,969 : 49,015
2dr Hardtop 6 - 120 - V8 - 20,001 : 20,121
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 11,235 : 11,235
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 46,051 : 46,051
2dr Convertible - V8 - 1,754 : 1,754
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 8,581 : 8,581
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 6,616 : 6,616
Total - 6- 166 - V8 - 143,207 : 143,373
PH Plymouth Sport Fury
4dr Sedan - V8 - 4,970 : 4,970
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 5,754 : 5,754
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 5,142 : 5,142
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 6,314 : 6,314
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 4,108 : 4,108
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 8,930 : 8,930
Total - V8 - 35,218 : 35,218
PP Plymouth Sport Fury GT
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 666 : 666
Total - V8 - 666 : 666
PS Plymouth Sport Fury S23
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 689 : 689
Total - V8 689 : 689
The above information is for 1970 Plymouth Fury models built for the US market. Canadian list next
The Sport Fury GT and S23 may not be correct.
TOTAL - 6-3.587 V8-255,599 : 259,186
Code - Make - Body Style - 6 - V8 : Total
PK Plymouth Fury Police
2dr Patroller Sedan 6 - 25 V8 - 451 : 476
4dr Patroller Sedan 6 - 24 V8 - 13,020 : 13,024
4dr Patroller Wagon 6 - 4 V8 - 492 : 496
TOTAL 6 - 33 V8 - 13,963 : 13,996
PT Plymouth Fury Taxi
4dr Sedan 6 - 773 V8 - 989 : 1,762
TOTAL - 6 - 773 V8 - 989 : 1,762
PE Plymouth Fury I
2dr Sedan 6 - 599 1 V8 - 1,280 : 1,879
4dr Sedan 6 - 1,448 - V8 - 8,544 : 9,992
TOTAL - 6 - 2,047 V8 - 9,824 : 11,871
PL Plymouth Fury II
2dr Sedan 6 - 81 V8- 20,998 : 21,079
4dr Sedan 6 - 388 V8 - 23,744 : 24,132
2dr Hardtop - Not sold in USA
4dr Suburban Wagon, 2st - 6 - 99 V8 - 4,303 - 4,402
4dr Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 2,002
TOTAL - 6 - 568 - V8 - 51,047 Total 51,615
PM Plymouth Fury III
4dr Sedan 6 - 46 - V8 - 48,969 : 49,015
2dr Hardtop 6 - 120 - V8 - 20,001 : 20,121
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 11,235 : 11,235
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 46,051 : 46,051
2dr Convertible - V8 - 1,754 : 1,754
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 8,581 : 8,581
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 6,616 : 6,616
Total - 6- 166 - V8 - 143,207 : 143,373
PH Plymouth Sport Fury
4dr Sedan - V8 - 4,970 : 4,970
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 5,754 : 5,754
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 5,142 : 5,142
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 6,314 : 6,314
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 4,108 : 4,108
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 8,930 : 8,930
Total - V8 - 35,218 : 35,218
PP Plymouth Sport Fury GT
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 666 : 666
Total - V8 - 666 : 666
PS Plymouth Sport Fury S23
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 689 : 689
Total - V8 689 : 689
The above information is for 1970 Plymouth Fury models built for the US market. Canadian list next
The Sport Fury GT and S23 may not be correct.
TOTAL - 6-3.587 V8-255,599 : 259,186
Thank you Bill, was hoping for some separation on the Fury ll to indicate Gran Coupes. But alas, they were lumped in w the Fury ll's
Bill Watson
Active Member
For the Canadian market. Do not have breakdowns for 6 and V8 engines - just totals only.
High production for Fury I sedans due to fire and police units being option packages on those models instead of separate models as in the U.S.
PE Plymouth Fury I
2dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 474
4dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 4,821
Total 5,295
PL Plymouth Fury II
2dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 237
4dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 3,562
2dr Hardtop - 6/V8 - 2,824
4dr Wagon, 2st - 6/V8 - 898
4dr Wagon, 3st - V8 - 248
Total 7,769
PM Plymouth Fury III
4dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 1,861
2dr Hardtop - 6/V8 - 1,252
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 1,132
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 1,828
2dr Convertible - V8 - 198
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 317
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 176
Total 6,764
PH Plymouth Sport Fury V8
4dr Sedan - V8 - 165
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 906
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 546
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 540
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 295
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 240
Total 2,692
PP Plymouth Sport Fury GT
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 3
Total 3
PS Plymouth Sport Fury S23
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 4
Total 4
TOTAL 1970
Canada - 22,527
All Plymouth Fury models - (American and Canadian) - 281,713
High production for Fury I sedans due to fire and police units being option packages on those models instead of separate models as in the U.S.
PE Plymouth Fury I
2dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 474
4dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 4,821
Total 5,295
PL Plymouth Fury II
2dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 237
4dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 3,562
2dr Hardtop - 6/V8 - 2,824
4dr Wagon, 2st - 6/V8 - 898
4dr Wagon, 3st - V8 - 248
Total 7,769
PM Plymouth Fury III
4dr Sedan - 6/V8 - 1,861
2dr Hardtop - 6/V8 - 1,252
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 1,132
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 1,828
2dr Convertible - V8 - 198
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 317
4dr Custom Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 176
Total 6,764
PH Plymouth Sport Fury V8
4dr Sedan - V8 - 165
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 906
2dr Formal Hardtop - V8 - 546
4dr Hardtop - V8 - 540
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 2st - V8 - 295
4dr Sport Suburban Wagon, 3st - V8 - 240
Total 2,692
PP Plymouth Sport Fury GT
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 3
Total 3
PS Plymouth Sport Fury S23
2dr Hardtop - V8 - 4
Total 4
TOTAL 1970
Canada - 22,527
All Plymouth Fury models - (American and Canadian) - 281,713
Bill, are these the actual production numbers or are they from the year end sales reports , option and accessories reports or other ?
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