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i seen in here someone had some books with a list of casting numbers .i have a 72 new yorker we took the power steering pump off its a TRW LARGE PUMP ,BUT IT DOSE NOT have a 3/8" threaded hole in the shaft from the parts book it should be a 3004799 but all the ones like that all have a small shaft & they all have a 3/8" threaded hole in them . we bought a rebuilt one from a swap meet the shaft is longer than mine & a lot skinnier in dia my just fall on it. has anyone run across this before? if i had a book of casting numbers we could maybe find what the part number is or the years it came off from ? we r at a lots .its pouring rain outside . i will get the pump we took off the car take pics of it including the casting # maybe someone here can help me . then if the shaft dose not have a nut & key wayto hole it on. (we used a puller to get it off . with out a hole in the center to put the pulley int=stalling tool onto how do we grt it back onto the shaft . i do not think using a BFH to drive it on is a good idea. anyone else run across this?or ee the ony ones
 
Typically, "casting numbers" in the car hobby usually relate to casting numbers for cylinder blocks, intake manifolds, exhaust manifolds, and cylinder heads. Maybe on transmission cases, too.

In the realm of power steering pumps, I don't know that I've ever seen those (power steering pump casting numbers, unless there was a design change in the production year, where the casting numbers were noted in a TSB or similar) included in the mix. Chrysler usually used what might be termed "the large pump" (with a larger power steering fluid cap on top of the reservoir) or the "Saginaw pump" (which is physically smaller, with an ovoid-shaped reservoir tower, and a smaller cap. "Saginaw" as that's who made it (Saginaw is/was a division of GM that did contract work/supplied items to other non-GM customers, as in power steering pumps, steering columns, etc., BUT to Chrysler's specifications, in many cases.

These two pumps look very different visually, from each other. All of the Saginaw pumps look the same, GM and otherwise, BUT the things of pulley shaft configuration and fitting sizes could well be specific to the application (Ford, GM, Chrysler, or others).

ONE thing about swap meets, ONLY go on YOUR knowledge of what you're buying, period. The seller might or might not know of what they are selling, by observation. In other words, be respectful, but if it doesn't physically and cosmetically match (look like) what you need, let somebody else buy it from them.

There are kits from reputable vendors that replace the large pump with the smaller Saginaw unit. But those include the necessary brackets and such to do a full installation (as I understand it) to mount the Saginaw pump where the large pump went.

Those are my experiences and observations, over the years.

Awaiting pictures for ID of the pump you have,
CBODY67
 
Typically, "casting numbers" in the car hobby usually relate to casting numbers for cylinder blocks, intake manifolds, exhaust manifolds, and cylinder heads. Maybe on transmission cases, too.

In the realm of power steering pumps, I don't know that I've ever seen those (power steering pump casting numbers, unless there was a design change in the production year, where the casting numbers were noted in a TSB or similar) included in the mix. Chrysler usually used what might be termed "the large pump" (with a larger power steering fluid cap on top of the reservoir) or the "Saginaw pump" (which is physically smaller, with an ovoid-shaped reservoir tower, and a smaller cap. "Saginaw" as that's who made it (Saginaw is/was a division of GM that did contract work/supplied items to other non-GM customers, as in power steering pumps, steering columns, etc., BUT to Chrysler's specifications, in many cases.

These two pumps look very different visually, from each other. All of the Saginaw pumps look the same, GM and otherwise, BUT the things of pulley shaft configuration and fitting sizes could well be specific to the application (Ford, GM, Chrysler, or others).

ONE thing about swap meets, ONLY go on YOUR knowledge of what you're buying, period. The seller might or might not know of what they are selling, by observation. In other words, be respectful, but if it doesn't physically and cosmetically match (look like) what you need, let somebody else buy it from them.

There are kits from reputable vendors that replace the large pump with the smaller Saginaw unit. But those include the necessary brackets and such to do a full installation (as I understand it) to mount the Saginaw pump where the large pump went.

Those are my experiences and observations, over the years.

Awaiting pictures for ID of the pump you have,
CBODY67
i know what type of pump i have it is what the factory service book calls a 1.06 style (federal) the .95 (Saginaw) has a nut on the front , as for the the swap meet pump , my cousin (40 yr + mechanic ) went out to the car & checked to make sure the mounting was te same(we drove it 6 hrs to the swap meet it wax the Indy head trade show swap meet ) he couldn't c the shaft was of 2 different sizes (we didn't have a caliber with us we didn't know they had 2 different shaft sizes ) ,just by looking they looked close to the same if we had the pimp the parts book called for it would had worked there is something different about her pump from what we can tell the one listed in the parts book should be the same as this one but its nor . now it may be like what he thinks the 3/8" threaded hold got missed when they made the pump u can c where they put the pilot hole but the 3/8" threaded hole never got drilled& taped ? don't know its strange . have u ever seen a large trw /federal (1.06) pumo that didnt have a threaded hole in the shaft?
 
Galen Govier has some casting number books, but I don't know as they get into things like power steering pumps.
 
I have a couple of casting number books, they don't list any numbers for the power steering pump.
 
i seen in here someone had some books with a list of casting numbers .i have a 72 new yorker we took the power steering pump off its a TRW LARGE PUMP ,BUT IT DOSE NOT have a 3/8" threaded hole in the shaft from the parts book it should be a 3004799 but all the ones like that all have a small shaft & they all have a 3/8" threaded hole in them . we bought a rebuilt one from a swap meet the shaft is longer than mine & a lot skinnier in dia my just fall on it. has anyone run across this before? if i had a book of casting numbers we could maybe find what the part number is or the years it came off from ? we r at a lots .its pouring rain outside . i will get the pump we took off the car take pics of it including the casting # maybe someone here can help me . then if the shaft dose not have a nut & key wayto hole it on. (we used a puller to get it off . with out a hole in the center to put the pulley int=stalling tool onto how do we grt it back onto the shaft . i do not think using a BFH to drive it on is a good idea. anyone else run across this?or ee the ony ones
well after taking the pump to a local hydraulic rebuilder & talking to them i think im going to bite the bullet & send it to steer & gea & have them rebuild the pump
 
i know what type of pump i have it is what the factory service book calls a 1.06 style (federal) the .95 (Saginaw) has a nut on the front , as for the the swap meet pump , my cousin (40 yr + mechanic ) went out to the car & checked to make sure the mounting was te same(we drove it 6 hrs to the swap meet it wax the Indy head trade show swap meet ) he couldn't c the shaft was of 2 different sizes (we didn't have a caliber with us we didn't know they had 2 different shaft sizes ) ,just by looking they looked close to the same if we had the pimp the parts book called for it would had worked there is something different about her pump from what we can tell the one listed in the parts book should be the same as this one but its nor . now it may be like what he thinks the 3/8" threaded hold got missed when they made the pump u can c where they put the pilot hole but the 3/8" threaded hole never got drilled& taped ? don't know its strange . have u ever seen a large trw /federal (1.06) pumo that didnt have a threaded hole in the shaft?

Thanks for the update. If the issue is the size of the pump's shaft, it could well be that unless that particular shaft size is related to something different inside of the pump, which might be something cast differently internally, then the casting number of the pump might not be important, per se. I suspect that there might be particular casting numbers as to when the pump was built, but the size of the pump shaft could well be from just a different shaft assy installed into a common pump body/casting. In other words, the casting number you have would relate ONLY to the casting itself, not how it is machined or what shaft assy is installed into it, to match the machining.

What is wrong with your first pump you desired to replace? Can it be rebuilt? Just curious.
CBODY67
 
Thanks for the update. If the issue is the size of the pump's shaft, it could well be that unless that particular shaft size is related to something different inside of the pump, which might be something cast differently internally, then the casting number of the pump might not be important, per se. I suspect that there might be particular casting numbers as to when the pump was built, but the size of the pump shaft could well be from just a different shaft assy installed into a common pump body/casting. In other words, the casting number you have would relate ONLY to the casting itself, not how it is machined or what shaft assy is installed into it, to match the machining.

What is wrong with your first pump you desired to replace? Can it be rebuilt? Just curious.
CBODY67
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i cant find anything close to what i have so im going to bight the bullet & have this one rebuilt
 
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i cant find anything close to what i have so im going to bight the bullet & have this one rebuilt
this the pump i removed from my 72 new yorker it has a 440 in it u ever c anything like this?

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