Not sure I have the right power steering pump, 68 newport

Having trouble with mine. I have the pulley off. Then the FSM says to thread their special tool into the shaft seal and pull it out. I do not have any threaded portion and the seal is flush with the housing. I do see a notched ring that is nor shown in my FSM. I assume that this ring rotates out? Move it with screwdriver?

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As mentioned that is the larger 5-1/8", also called 1.2 for displacement. Per FSM & parts book that is the ONLY pump that came on 68 C-body big block. Putting that butchered POS reservoir back on would be a crime against C-bodies, get the right one!:eek:
My ‘68 Polara 383 2Bbl has the original 4-5/8 pump with the flat end pully shaft . And not the larger 5-1/8.
The 318 was a 4-7/8 diameter in ‘68.
And yes the OP needs a new housing.
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My ‘68 383 non a/c
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Having trouble with mine. I have the pulley off. Then the FSM says to thread their special tool into the shaft seal and pull it out. I do not have any threaded portion and the seal is flush with the housing. I do see a notched ring that is nor shown in my FSM. I assume that this ring rotates out? Move it with screwdriver?

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My memory regarding exact details of what I did 22 years ago is not crystal clear. I do recall I removed the shaft assembly including the spring-loaded slippers & that negated any need for a special tool to remove the seal because that exposes it. The part you're talking about is the spanner nut, it threads out counter clockwise. In the manual they show removing it with a steel drift but I would use brass or a piece of copper pipe in a pinch so as not to beat it up. I have a few tools I use for removing stuff like that that most wouldn't have. I usually look at the stuff in the manual & use best judgement if they call out some unobtainable special tool. The trick they show using the wire to compress the slippers worked great.

Caution: If you remove that spanner nut it has to be marked to go in same position as original per FSM!
 
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Having trouble with mine. I have the pulley off. Then the FSM says to thread their special tool into the shaft seal and pull it out. I do not have any threaded portion and the seal is flush with the housing. I do see a notched ring that is nor shown in my FSM. I assume that this ring rotates out? Move it with screwdriver?

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There are no threads. If I recall correctly the threaded tool goes over the shaft and screws into the rubber seal and maybe part of the steel seal housing effectively getting a grip on the seal so you can pull it out. It will damage the seal as it is screwing in, but protects the shaft surface where the seal rises. I am honestly don’t remember what I did to get mine out.
 
My ‘68 Polara 383 2Bbl has the original 4-5/8 pump with the flat end pully shaft . And not the larger 5-1/8.
The 318 was a 4-7/8 diameter in ‘68.
And yes the OP needs a new housing.
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My ‘68 383 non a/c
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I stand corrected on that then. Very confusing, parts book doesn't really say what specific engines get the small pump but I formerly had a 383-2V Newport that had the big pump but did have AC. The 68 Chrysler/ Imp service manual doesn't even mention the smaller pump.
 
Having trouble with mine. I have the pulley off. Then the FSM says to thread their special tool into the shaft seal and pull it out. I do not have any threaded portion and the seal is flush with the housing. I do see a notched ring that is nor shown in my FSM. I assume that this ring rotates out? Move it with screwdriver?

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Here's the tool they use to pull the seal. It looks to me like it screws down into the seal and grabs/destroys it and pulls what's left up.

I'll bet that you could punch a couple holes in the metal part of the seal then screw some sheet metal screws (not too deep though) and yank on the screws to pull it out.

MOPAR MILLER C-3783 POWER STEERING PUMP SHAFT SEAL REMOVER TOOL | eBay

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I stand corrected on that then. Very confusing, parts book doesn't really say what specific engines get the small pump but I formerly had a 383-2V Newport that had the big pump but did have AC. The 68 Chrysler/ Imp service manual doesn't even mention the smaller pump.
For the Imp it only shows the big one in the parts book. It must have been a weight thing. More weight in the engine compartment (A/C) required more pump to steer?
 
Here's the tool they use to pull the seal. It looks to me like it screws down into the seal and grabs/destroys it and pulls what's left up.

I'll bet that you could punch a couple holes in the metal part of the seal then screw some sheet metal screws (not too deep though) and yank on the screws to pull it out.

What are you doing with that?
Good idea to use screws.
 
For the Imp it only shows the big one in the parts book. It must have been a weight thing. More weight in the engine compartment (A/C) required more pump to steer?
Per the 68 service manual there is only one pump for all Chryslers & Imperial. This contradicts part book. Not the 1st time I've seen that happen.
 
What are you doing with that?
Good idea to use screws.
Not mine, and I don't have one, otherwise you could borrow it.

I've used screws to pull seals a few times with good results. Just have to be careful and punch the holes rather than drill them. That keeps the chips out and actually keeps more material for the screws to bite into.

I looked up the tool because I was curious as I'm getting set to pull the leaky pump off my 300 and looked at the FSM. Then I searched eBay and sure enough, there was the tool they list.
 
I might just unscrew the spanner nut and see what the inside looks like.
 
Per the 68 service manual there is only one pump for all Chryslers & Imperial. This contradicts part book. Not the 1st time I've seen that happen.

C-bodies will make you crazy because of this. Not all C-bodies are the same nor are the service manuals. ‘68 Monaco & Polara has a good description of all three pumps. The .96 displacement (4-5/8) plain shaft and the 1.2 displacement (5-1/8) hexagon hole in shaft are pretty identical to service. The 1.06 (4-7/8) 3/8 threaded hole in shaft (318) is quite different.
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I'll bet that you could punch a couple holes in the metal part of the seal then screw some sheet metal screws (not too deep though) and yank on the screws to pull it out.

The spanner ring does not want to move, so I guess I'll just do the seal. That screw idea did the trick! Thanks Big John.

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Update: I ended up buying a pump and got the old pulley off. Turns out my new pump has a 5/8" shaft and my old has 3/4". I'm emailing the company now but it's start of weekend so who knows when I'll get a response. Anyone think its better to try and exchange for the right pump/ shaft size or should I just buy a new pulley and keep the pump? Everything seems to line up except the pulley shaft.

Also, I was doing this on my driveway thinking I'd be done today. Since I have the pump off and in my garage, Is it possible to drive the car without the pump? Or at least a few turns to pull it into my garage? Not sure if it would damage the other end where steering case is.
 
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Update: I ended up buying a pump and got the old pulley off. Turns out my new pump has a 5/8" shaft and my old has 3/4". I'm emailing the company now but it's start of weekend so who knows when I'll get a response. Anyone think its better to try and exchange for the right pump/ shaft size or should I just buy a new pulley and keep the pump? Everything seems to line up except the pulley shaft.

Also, I was doing this on my driveway thinking I'd be done today. Since I have the pump off and in my garage, Is it possible to drive the car without the pump? Or at least a few turns to pull it into my garage? Not sure if it would damage the other end where steering case is.
Is your rag joint/steering coupler in good shape? That's what we called it. I would only steer while it's in motion - not staionary. I had to replace mine with a unit from British Leyand designs, unfun.

See this thread. Post #150 has pictures. "Steering coupler needed"

<a href="Steering coupler needed">Steering coupler needed</a>
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Steering coupler needed

Not sure that will work.
 
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