Getting into C-Bodies

Lately find myself admiring the 70-72 300's and Furys. (...) I find myself really thinking a C-body would be much nicer, smoother and quieter on the highway.

No question about that.

I'm in the same boat as CRV on the convertible side. (...) Still for the right car I wouldn't pass up the opportunity.

I have a '70 Polara 'vert (318, all-original car with just 31k miles when I bought her 2 years ago) and a '71 Monaco hardtop (440, 75k miles when I bought her). They offer very different driving experiences, yet I love both.

No one commenting above said that C-body 'verts are noisy, and that is because they are not. My Polara is super quiet all the way up to 45-55 MPH (you are really driving in your sofa, and you can have convos with your passenger without having to raise your voice: it really is that good). Above that speed, there is some wind rush but not so much that it is deafening -- several times, I drove a couple of hours at a time on the highway and I was none worse for the wear. My passengers, ranging in age from 10 to 84 years old, have shared with me how comfortable the car is.

Granted, as @Big_John said, with the top up a 'vert is noticeably noisier than a coupe -- one more reason to put the top down as soon as you have a chance.

Definitely A/C would be a must have just not the auto temp I've read so many "nice" things about on the forum

I am not sure that you need A/C in Edmonton. I would argue that the driving experience is much more enjoyable with all the windows down.

This said, if you plan to drive long-distance and do want A/C, I'd indeed avoid AutoTemp like the plague on 1969-70 and 1974-78 cars. Do note that the ATC on the 1971-73 can be fixed, even if it is not cheap. I recently took the plunge on a '73 NYB on that basis. But then again, there is tons of summer humidity where I'm at, and the rest of the car was too good to let ATC2 stop me.

Lately find myself admiring the 70-72 300's and Furys. (...) I find myself really thinking a C-body would be much nicer, smoother and quieter on the highway.

Wanting to stay in a 2 door with a big block what advise would c-body owners pass along?

OK, I am going to go into specifics before turning back to generalities:

1. I note that you are in Edmonton. That's a good thing: there are a number of FCBO members in Alberta, which is a big plus. Many are in the Calgary area. Closest to you is a super-nice member, @Welder guy. He is based in Leduc, AB and helped me out big time with the acquisition of a 300 'vert two summers ago.

2. If my own experience in the past two months can be generalized, the virus situation has partly isolated the Canadian classic-cars market from the rest of the world, which is bad for Canadian sellers and good for local buyers.

3. I know a member in Western Canada who has decided to sell one of his big Mopars. The model year is not in your preferred year range, but the car is oh so beautiful. Looking at your own Belvedere, you might really like his car.

4. If you want to stick to coupes and are willing to get a car from the States, then there is a '69 Fury 2dr, H-code (383-4) not massively far away from you (for sale in Oregon) that might be of interest. I know it's not a 70-72 but it seems to be in really excellent cosmetic condition. That car was built in Windsor and its first owner was Canadian, both of which may matter to you. It stayed in the original family till last year. The asking price is $13k (and the seller says he expects to be negotiated down), which seems eminently reasonable for 4-barrel BB C-body in rust-free condition: an all-original '71 300 in GF9 green/tan interior recently sold sight unseen for $12.5k, while an all-original '71 Monaco in GF3 green/green interior also sold sight unseen for $13.5k. Both had a front bench draped in torn fabric but were rust-free and unmolested.

Now back to generalities:

A. The folks who have chimed in above have lots of experience (in most cases, much more than I have) with C-bodies and I would take their wisdom to heart.

B. @Big_John is right on the money (as always) when he says that fixing a cheap car is much more expensive in the end than getting a good one to start with. Even with the best cars, @Zymurgy and @shooter65 are smack on -- there are a bunch of things you'll always want to go through unless stuff was recently done (and then again, was it done correctly? I had to undo many things the previous owner did to Medina, my '71 Monaco).

C. I'll add that you don't need to do your own work to enjoy the cars -- but if you do not work yourself, then you MUST find someone trustworthy who will do a good job and yet will not take you to the cleaners. Not all Mopar experts are competent with C-bodies: do your research first. And, it may be that the person you end up working with is a member -- that's what happened to me with @71Polara383, and after fixing Medina he's now fixing two more cars for/with me!


PS: your Belvedere looks sharp!
 
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It's actually reasonably quiet with the top down. But with the top up, it's not as quiet as a hardtop.

There other issues though...Freshly fertilized fields and dead skunks in the middle of the road type of things. You're only a box cutter away from being broken into. They rattle more and the sun beats the crap out of the interior. Getting caught in traffic in the hot sun. Sun burning the tops of your thighs if your wearing shorts. Nothing like getting back into your car that's been sitting in the sun and you can't touch the steering wheel.... And you have to keep your comments to yourself about pedestrians (I have to remind Mrs. Big John about that). Drive into a bad neighborhood? Locking the door isn't gonna do much.

Love them though... They are a lot of fun.

Well said! I would just like to add to that list, the chance of bird poop! In some cultures it's a sign of good luck! Hasn't happened to me, yet, anyone? Once a seagull dropped a McDonald's french fry on the passenger seat. Another time, while driving my old Monaco hardtop, it sounded like a rock fell out of the sky and hit the roof. Turned out to be a giant goose turd!

I've read on this forum, when it comes to the fuselage era, the "newer" the car, the more comfortable the ride and the better the build quality.
So a '72-'73 would be preferred over a '69-'70.

That may be true, however '72-'73 were the first year's of the "smog" engine's. That's worth taking into account.
 
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I am not sure that you need A/C in Edmonton. I would argue that the driving experience is much more enjoyable with all the windows down.

Personal preference really, I rarely turn mine on, even in my daily driver.

1. I note that you are in Edmonton. That's a good thing: there are a number of FCBO members in Alberta, which is a big plus. Many are in the Calgary area. Closest to you is a super-nice member, @Welder guy. He is based in Leduc, AB and helped me out big time with the acquisition of a 300 'vert two summers ago.

I didn't notice he was in Edmonton. Too bad there are no members there...
 
'72-'73 were the first year's of the "smog" engine's. That's worth taking into account.

Agreed. IMHO, the 1971's have most of the improvements (chassis, seats, etc.) without most of the later drawbacks (including unfortunate styling changes on some models).

I didn't notice he was in Edmonton. Too bad there are no members there...

Other than @Welder guy, I am not aware of anyone. Then again, Leduc is just next to the Edmonton airport and just 30' from downtown Edmonton, so he and @Shazbot are pretty close.
 
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I screwed up. Simple as that. I had you in Calgary. Please accept my apologies!

PS: I have since also learned that @Verse is in Edmonton
 
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Anyways, that means if our two GY9 Dodges get to meet next year for their 50th birthday reunion, it'll be an even longer drive. Yes!
 
I never see any c-bodies at the mopar events in the Edmonton area or I somehow managed to miss them.

The A/C is a nice to have but not a deal breaker, it does get hot here too once and awhile. I just figured if I was going to leave the hot rod side of the scene for luxury and comfort I should go all in.

Unfortunately with the border as it is car shopping has more challenges, plus I would need a buyer for my Belvedere which as many times as people compliment the car and ask if its for sale real buyers are always far and few between.

As far as what to buy I have no interest in body work. I'm a mechanic by trade so that side is easier but big projects get old. I'd rather find a good honest dry car for sure.
 
Big John and Ayilar are spot on. To buy a fixer upper will cost more in the long run. Parts are harder to source out and locating replacement them can be difficult. The plus side of a complete car w/ all trim accessories intact is invaluable when it comes fit and finish. The only caution I can offer watch for rust. Floor, pan, trunk, trunk extensions rear frame rails are known to rust. Get a factory service manual is a must have. If you get into trouble, the members on here can help you out.
 
I never see any c-bodies at the mopar events in the Edmonton area or I somehow managed to miss them.

The A/C is a nice to have but not a deal breaker, it does get hot here too once and awhile. I just figured if I was going to leave the hot rod side of the scene for luxury and comfort I should go all in.

Unfortunately with the border as it is car shopping has more challenges, plus I would need a buyer for my Belvedere which as many times as people compliment the car and ask if its for sale real buyers are always far and few between.

As far as what to buy I have no interest in body work. I'm a mechanic by trade so that side is easier but big projects get old. I'd rather find a good honest dry car for sure.

All of the Mopar specific shows, which are few and far between, are definitely dominated by A's, B's, and E's. I'd wager it's the same most places. I usually only enter one or two shows a year. Almost always the father's day show at celebration church. Been going to that one since it was church on 99th, about fifteen years. It's now, and has been for a while, Edmonton's largest car show! Almost all the C's I've owned, I've shown there, '71 Monaco, '71 Polara, '71 New Yorker, and last year my '70 Newport convertible. And yes, I'm almost always the only C, sometimes the only Chrysler!

If luxury is what you're after, I agree, it should have A/C. And I don't think there's any reason to look to the states for a car. Good one's show up every once in awhile up here, and with our dollar where it is now, I wouldn't want to add that to shipping/customs. It would have to be the perfect car.

Your Belvedere is gorgeous! Trade for a project C?
 
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