Storage building/barn

stubs300 said:
How limited is the budget?
Have you looked into it yourself as to how much it will cost for what you want?
Have you shopped around? Doubt it! Good Luck
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Actually, as per usual, your arrogance outweighs your ignorance.

My budget is quite reasonable, I've looked at steel buildings, I've looked at construction and material cost to build an actual shop, and I've weighed the pros and cons of each.

For the cost of land + steel building, I'm looking at around 25% over doing a pole barn, to do land + a garage I'm about 75% over the pole barn due to the amount of increased cost of material as others have said.

The Pole barn has the least amount of construction materials required.

I've gone as far as to look into permits and their cost and what is required to obtain them also, and also what the tax increase on the property would be after a formal structure is erected.


Nick
 
'69FuryIIIConvertible said:
Actually, as per usual, your arrogance outweighs your ignorance.

My budget is quite reasonable, I've looked at steel buildings, I've looked at construction and material cost to build an actual shop, and I've weighed the pros and cons of each.

For the cost of land + steel building, I'm looking at around 25% over doing a pole barn, to do land + a garage I'm about 75% over the pole barn due to the amount of increased cost of material as others have said.

The Pole barn has the least amount of construction materials required.

I've gone as far as to look into permits and their cost and what is required to obtain them also, and also what the tax increase on the property would be after a formal structure is erected.


Nick
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:lol: I was waiting for that ...:thumbsup:
 
It’s a shame when your Government has put so many regulation roadblocks in your way that the little guy can’t afford to do something simple for themselves, Damn Socialists!
 
polara71 said:
Apparently they usually are
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Yes. Everyone ran around like chicken little in 2018 thinking they would not be able to get trucks, rates went up, now they are back down. Problem now is some realize finally that you can refuse those back down to 2017 rates and guess what? They pop right back up.
If you pay a good rate on your junk you want hauled, you will have as many trucks as you can use, and then some.
 
polara71 said:
My home is a Dutch Colonial so it has a barn elevation. When I was planning my garage I strongly considered the plan you mention.
I chose the 12' ceilings with a 4/12 roof pitch because I didn’t want the garage to eclipse the house. I do have attic storage but its minimal. If the house was positioned differently I probably would have done it similarly to your plan .
Point is there are plenty of things to consider when planning these things out, many unforseen. A forum like this can pose a lot of questions for Nick to consider when planning.
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Lots of unforeseen things always pop up. The nice thing about the overhead space with that type of roof design is that you can put doors in one end of it to get large things in and out. Plus outside stairs if needed. I would also put a bean in that had a chainfall or hoist system that could be trolley in and out for the real heavy/bulky stuff. Even my shed I put a small door above the main doors into the loft. That's how I've put the lumber in.
 
stubs300 said:
Oh really, so when did you change horse's in the last 24 hours? Sorry for trying to help!


I got him and you know it, so I guess the jokes on you!
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You don't think I don't see your posts here?

What help did you try to provide?

Of all the people on this forum, you are likely the least helpful.

Nick

I asked about opinions on construction of a pole barn....

Reasonable and limited are very close to one another, what I save in purchase price I can put towards construction materials....my budget is around 100k....if I spend $50k of that on a building, how much does that leave for land, surveys, and permits? Thanks to local bylaws, they'll only allow permits on engineered steel buildings, mostly due to snow load....
 
This is the one property I'm considering, its an odd shape, but it works in my favor actually.
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I'm looking at building designs along these lines......

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Nick, I'd have to agree with everyone else who have already chimed in... know what you want to build, and build it bigger.
You're on the right track to get all your cars & parts into one location that will give you a place to call your own and somewhere you can go to work on your cars at your own pace.
I commend you for thinking about your future, as there are plenty opportunities out there, but only someone with a drive to take action will ever have a chance to reach their goal. People who don't , only have regrets.
Your a young guy, still near the beginning of your working days. Have you considered looking into buying a property that might fit the bill?
It took just a couple minutes to find this place in Ottawa, ON that seems to have what would make sense to me, if I were in your shoes. (BTW I know 0% about Ottawa Canada or how close it is to you)
Their list price is under your stated budget, already piped for water/electric/heat/etc. And no more rent bill payments!
Then, when you decide to move you will most likely get your money back when you sell, and get something bigger. I'm sure there are better properties to find, if you took a look.
For Sale: 2595 BLACKWELL STREET UNIT 100, Ottawa, Ontario, K1B4E4 - More on POINT2HOMES.com
I rented for years, storing 1, 2 or 3 cars at a time. Looking back, yeah I pissed a lot of money away, paying the taxes and/or for the property's for those storage facility owners.
When I found the unit I bought, I thought I'd never run out of room. Boy, was I wrong.
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Lastly, be fore-warned, once you get your own place, whatever route you take, build or buy, you're "done". You'll never ever be able to live again without it.:lol:
 
sixpkrt said:
Nick, I'd have to agree with everyone else who have already chimed in... know what you want to build, and build it bigger.
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It took just a couple minutes to find this place in Ottawa, ON that seems to have what would make sense to me, if I were in your shoes. (BTW I know 0% about Ottawa Canada or how close it is to you)
Their list price is under your stated budget, already piped for water/electric/heat/etc. And no more rent bill payments!
Then, when you decide to move you will most likely get your money back when you sell, and get something bigger. I'm sure there are better properties to find, if you took a look.
For Sale: 2595 BLACKWELL STREET UNIT 100, Ottawa, Ontario, K1B4E4 - More on POINT2HOMES.com
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That is for the "business + equipment" only. The premises are leased.
 
300rag said:
That is for the "business + equipment" only. The premises are leased.
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Also, Ottawa is 5 hours from me. So I kind of lose it being easy to run and grab something if I need it.

That's why I'm looking towards Trent hills as both my parents and my in laws live in the area, ideally the future would bring a house built on my land also.

The property I'm looking at has hydro service at the road, I'd only have to pay for it to be run from there to a meter on my building.

Nick
 
If you will be financing this the lack of power ON the lot could be an obstacle or require a larger DP. However , it sounds like you've knocked on a lot of doors already and probably know that.
 
why is there a gap between property lines on the left of the image? is it an easement for electric or a future road? if it's a road, you could find yourself surrounded on two sides. walk the land and look for wet areas. if you plan to erect a residence there, i'm sure it will need to pass a perc test. you would also need a good source of water. check with the neighbors and see what their water is like. make sure you have water rights also. it wouldn't hurt to ask about the ground either. is it diggable/drillable or solid rock?
 
1970cat said:
why is there a gap between property lines on the left of the image? is it an easement for electric or a future road? if it's a road, you could find yourself surrounded on two sides. walk the land and look for wet areas. if you plan to erect a residence there, i'm sure it will need to pass a perc test. you would also need a good source of water. check with the neighbors and see what their water is like. make sure you have water rights also. it wouldn't hurt to ask about the ground either. is it diggable/drillable or solid rock?
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Survey was already done on the land, it's buildable, the line to West is an easement owned by the government for access to the land north of it which is crown land.

Crown land is government owned land that will never be built on.

As it is, much like any other large purchase. I'm not in a hurry to buy the first few I look at, I looked at 5 $500 dodge rams before I bought mine, before I spend $50k I'm going to do a hell of a lot of leg work.

Nick
 
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