1971 colorado state patrol 2 door e85 fury 1

[boostedvan]

Congrats on finding a very rare car! That is one cool car, and looks to be in really good shape overall. I would fix up the interior and drive it as is. Very cool piece of history and look forward to seeing the progress on it.

 

[Ross Wooldridge]

It's possible that the dual snorkel air cleaner was simply used by default on the assembly line, even if it wasn't spec'd for the application originally, especially if the regular air cleaner was in short supply, or if an assembly worker knew that the car was a police car, or if the engine line that builds engines for police cars put the air cleaners on... I am only postulating here, and have nothing to back up my ideas, other than knowing that police car engines were built on a separate engine assembly line from regular engines.

Just some thoughts as @CBODY67 would say...

 

[ayilar]

Why?

My bad, I did not pay attention. I read the thread late last night, after a really long work day. I'll blame that fact for why, in my head, this car was a 1970. Of course, this is a 1971, not a 1970. @robio's air cleaner thus looks like the correct 1971, not a 1970.

According to Nick's Garage, the "1970 383 and 440 4-Barrel (...) breather hose comes off back of unit. Snorkels have straight crease line on their right and left side." In contrast, the "1971 383 and 440 4-Barrel (snorkel's) breather hose coming from left snorkel. There are two versions of the right snorkel design. Some of them have a straight line running diagonally and other have a hump in the line."

PE21T1D204307 (if I decipher the tag correctly -- @robio, pls confirm) has the same air cleaner as Medina, my 1971 T-code Monaco.

 

[live4theking]

Very cool car. I would've had a hard time not going over budget for it also.

 

[polara71]

My bad, I did not pay attention. I read the thread late last night, after a really long work day. I'll blame that fact for why, in my head, this car was a 1970. Of course, this is a 1971, not a 1970. @robio's air cleaner thus looks like the correct 1971, not a 1970.

According to Nick's Garage, the "1970 383 and 440 4-Barrel (...) breather hose comes off back of unit. Snorkels have straight crease line on their right and left side." In contrast, the "1971 383 and 440 4-Barrel (snorkel's) breather hose coming from left snorkel. There are two versions of the right snorkel design. Some of them have a straight line running diagonally and other have a hump in the line."

PL21T1D204307 (if I decipher the tag correctly -- @robio, pls confirm) has the same air cleaner as Medina, my 1971 T-code Monaco.

But I think I was asking why you thought it odd to have a dual snorkel.

 

[Davea Lux]

The 69-71 440 cruisers were available with the police upgrade on the standard T code 440. With that option as part of the police package you got the dual snorkel air cleaner and the high performance exhaust. With the upgrade the engine was then rated at 365 hp. This cruiser has the static ground straps and the battery heat shield, also part of the police package. The extra dome light forward or the so called "Ticket Light" was also part of most police packages. Also note the full horn ring on the steering wheel, another police option. You first order of business would be to replace the timing chain as in police service they started failing at about 70k.

Dave

 

[marko]

[QUOTE="ayilar, post: 950026, member:

I am more puzzled by the dual snorkel on a T-code car (E85 engine). @robio — do you have the build sheet?[/QUOTE]

my 71 T code 440 Fury Custom Suburban (PM45T) has a dual snorkel which it came with from new.
heres the bigger 71 engine choices, you can see the dual snorkel was standard on the T code

 

[polara71]

[QUOTE="ayilar, post: 950026, member:

I am more puzzled by the dual snorkel on a T-code car (E85 engine). @robio — do you have the build sheet?

my 71 T code 440 Fury Custom Suburban (PM45T) has a dual snorkel which it came with from new.
heres the bigger 71 engine choices, you can see the dual snorkel was standard on the T code

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Thats exactly where I was going .

 

[ayilar]

my 71 T code 440 Fury Custom Suburban (PM45T) has

Plymouth, present tense. Can we see the beast, or have I missed on a prior post?

 

[marko]

ive posted about it before, cant seem to find any links. 2 seat 6 passnger
factory 440 tow pkg, 3:23 s/g, dual exh, got original bill of sale, lots of records and the typical old man spiral wire bound notebook documenting pretty much everything
sand pebble beige w green interior
ive added green buckets and console shift from a 69 sport fury ( original split bench front seat was long gone)

 

[polara71]

Plymouth, present tense. Can we see the beast, or have I missed on a prior post?

AND your point is?

And haven't we been down this road before?

 

[68PK21 440.6bbl]

Looks like the car was ordered from a dealer, I wonder what the dealership name is?
Maybe a reason for the PL class and/or was a 2 door even in the police PK classification back in 1971?

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[CBODY67]

Dealer nameplate? Many state bids prohibit the application of any dealer identification on the vehicles. IF this particular car was bid by the local dealer, rather than through a multi-car state bid, for whatever reason, then somebody at the dealership coiuld have applied it, not knowing of any restrictions on doing so. I'm not sure its presence is significant, ONLY the build sheet might know.

CBODY67

 

[tallhair]

VERY cool acquisition!


Congratulations!

 

[robio]

Thanks everyone.

Great input, and some great info already. I am glad I decided to share this one with you all.

I specifically liked the facts about T code cars with police packages could get some engine upgrades and bump the HP.

So, I will be out by the car on Sunday. I will get more pics then. I have also been curious about what the build sheet looks like, so I will dig it out as well.

There were some comments about what people would do or not do with it, so here is my plan with this thing.

I have thought about the lights, and I really dont have any desire to take it all the way back to its former glory of a fully decked out highway patrol unit. No concourse restoration. I do not want to disregard its DNA either by changing a bunch of stuff. I like it the way it is. I will look for 2 of the right matching steel wheels, not just throw any old ones on, stuff like that. Fix the mechanical stuff and get it on the road. Maybe touch up the interior next. The paint and body will stay like that.

Then, after I drive the piss out of it once or twice, decide what to do with it. For my 35 years of driving i have driven older stuff as daily drivers. I dont have that right now and I miss it. This car is significant on many levels, and the more I learn about it the more I realize it is not meant to be the daily driver I am looking for. I would feel like crap if it was wrecked, and I am thinking I am not alone on that one. Sure, I could tuck it away, drive it here and there. I will chew on that for awhile.

But first, still lots to do to get her on the road. Hope to update sunday.

 

[shooter65]

FYI, it looks like this is a vinyl seat car and you'll know for sure if you find a build sheet but it probably has heavy duty vinyl seats.

I like your plans for the car and IMO you won't regret it. If you ever decide to sell it, you will get a better price the more you keep original. As you can see by this thread, there are a lot of people who are very knowledgeable about Police vehicles and any deviations will be noted and reflected if you decide to sell.

 

[Pete Kaczmarski]

Look on the internet for any retired Colorado Troopers Association. See if there is any history for you to gain knowledge. Perhaps there may be a member that already has a restored one for you to make contact with. My car was a marked car but I had it restored as a clean top unmarked car. I use magnetic emblems of my local county. So when it comes time to sell it it will not affect its value.

 

[polara71]

Thanks everyone.

Great input, and some great info already. I am glad I decided to share this one with you all.

I specifically liked the facts about T code cars with police packages could get some engine upgrades and bump the HP.

So, I will be out by the car on Sunday. I will get more pics then. I have also been curious about what the build sheet looks like, so I will dig it out as well.

There were some comments about what people would do or not do with it, so here is my plan with this thing.

I have thought about the lights, and I really dont have any desire to take it all the way back to its former glory of a fully decked out highway patrol unit. No concourse restoration. I do not want to disregard its DNA either by changing a bunch of stuff. I like it the way it is. I will look for 2 of the right matching steel wheels, not just throw any old ones on, stuff like that. Fix the mechanical stuff and get it on the road. Maybe touch up the interior next. The paint and body will stay like that.

Then, after I drive the piss out of it once or twice, decide what to do with it. For my 35 years of driving i have driven older stuff as daily drivers. I dont have that right now and I miss it. This car is significant on many levels, and the more I learn about it the more I realize it is not meant to be the daily driver I am looking for. I would feel like crap if it was wrecked, and I am thinking I am not alone on that one. Sure, I could tuck it away, drive it here and there. I will chew on that for awhile.

But first, still lots to do to get her on the road. Hope to update sunday.

That statement says it'll be for sale within a year...

 

[tallhair]

ive posted about it before, cant seem to find any links. 2 seat 6 passnger
factory 440 tow pkg, 3:23 s/g, dual exh, got original bill of sale, lots of records and the typical old man spiral wire bound notebook documenting pretty much everything
sand pebble beige w green interior
ive added green buckets and console shift from a 69 sport fury ( original split bench front seat was long gone)

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Id love to check it out do you have a thread?

LOVE that grill

 

[robio]

That statement says it'll be for sale within a year...

There is always stuff going on behind the scenes that people dont know.

I know this is a restoration thread, here is a quick snapshot of how this one started.

Last year I had both cornea transplants. Every day I get to see is a bonus. I am a car guy, bought my first one when I was 10. So, I want to drive a car that makes me smile every day, while I still can.

At the same time, my dad is almost 80. We didnt get along for many years. The car is at his place and we are finally doing one together, while we still can.

I have always had a soft spot for this era of mopars, so went looking. I thought I would get 2 birds with one stone, and bought this car. Turns out, it is just so darn nice and uncommon that the daily driver piece is probably not there.

So, it may end up for sale, yes. I hope this explains that there are more things in play than making a few bucks. I also hope everyone knows my motives on this site are to share a great car with the ones who appreciate it, not to get free advertising.