Broadcast sheet vs fender tag

[Polara_500]

Just thought I'd throw this out for fun, these represent a 65 Monaco that will never see the road again, (at least by itself).

Maybe if anyone else has some to add?

 

[bluefury361]

What is the point here? The fender tag is just a short summery of the broadcast sheet.

 

[77newyorker440]

Out of curiosity, is there any way to determine what differential gears I have without having the build sheet or pulling the diff cover off? I know that I have a 9.25 diff, but I am wondering if it has the 3.23 gears or the 2.72 gears. The car is a 1977 New Yorker Brougham. Not trying to hijack this thread, I just thought it would fit with the theme of the build sheet post.
Thanks,
77newyorker440

 

[polara71]

My reading comprehension says hey, this is never to exist again, here is this information for anyone who cares.
But what do I know?

 

[MrMoparCHP]

Out of curiosity, is there any way to determine what differential gears I have without having the build sheet or pulling the diff cover off? I know that I have a 9.25 diff, but I am wondering if it has the 3.23 gears or the 2.72 gears. The car is a 1977 New Yorker Brougham. Not trying to hijack this thread, I just thought it would fit with the theme of the build sheet post.
Thanks,
77newyorker440

I know you can in 67/68 (data plate) but in 69 it became part of the axle assembly code on the broadcast sheet and wasn't on the data tag.


Alan

 

[69CoronetRT]

What is the point here? The fender tag is just a short summery of the broadcast sheet.

Similar but different intentions and goals for each. The audience for the information is different.

 

[69CoronetRT]

Out of curiosity, is there any way to determine what differential gears I have without having the build sheet or pulling the diff cover off? I know that I have a 9.25 diff, but I am wondering if it has the 3.23 gears or the 2.72 gears. The car is a 1977 New Yorker Brougham. Not trying to hijack this thread, I just thought it would fit with the theme of the build sheet post.
Thanks,
77newyorker440

Sure. Old school. Jack up the rear end, spin the wheel and count the rotations of the drive shaft. Just under three rotations = 2.72. About 1/4 over three turns would be 3.23.

 

[69CoronetRT]

I know you can in 67/68 (data plate) but in 69 it became part of the axle assembly code on the broadcast sheet and wasn't on the data tag.


Alan

The Axle Assembly number does tell us the rear end gears but they are listed as a separate code on the 69 and later BS under the D code.

..."wasn't on the data tag" Generally, the standard gears were not listed on the 69 and later tag as in prior years yet, the actual application depends on several factors. Lynch Road tags do list the rear axle assembly and therefore both standard and optional gears. Axle packages containing non standard gears for A and B bodies are listed on tags. C bodies have limited gear options compared to A and B bodies yet certain packages did contain specific gears (A35 trailer towing for one...).

There are, limited, instances you can determine the gear ratio from the tag through secondary coding.

 

[bluefury361]

Similar but different intentions and goals for each. The audience for the information is different.

I understand the fender tag as a source of information for service purposes. Whereas the broadcast sheet served no purpose once the car left the assembly plant. At least until the car became collectable.

 

[69CoronetRT]

I understand the fender tag as a source of information for service purposes. The broadcast sheet served no purpose once the car left the assembly plant. At least until the car became collectable.

The fender tag is, generally, a durable traveling media on which to impart information such as paint, trim, and body in white info on a specific car as the car goes through the build process. By necessity and design, the tag will contain similar, but less, info than the broadcast sheet. If the tag had additional information that assisted in service after the sale, that was a bonus. The Certicard concept probably provided more service information than the tag.

The broadcast sheet was a way to concisely communicate information on a specific car to assembly stations spread out over a large area (i.e. "broadcast") so they could manage inventory and have their piece of the car ready to go when called for. Pretty much every item on the sheet required a different assembly section to prepare sub assemblies or components for a car coupled with timely coordination for efficiency Cumulatively, the sheet acts as the basic blueprint of a specific car. After assembly, the sheet was worthless.

Given how easy it is to make changes to cars, an original broadcast sheet is now a virtually certain way to establish provenance of a car. Regrettably, critical documents like tags, broadcast sheets and window stickers are now faked for made up cars.

 

[rapidtrans]

Here is a window sticker i cobbled together based on my broadcast sheet found under the rear seat.The form is a blank I found on the internet and have left the repro disclaimer along the left edge. Not pretending at all that it's original. Prices shown were taken from actual stickers for similar cars either at shows or found on the web. I've left the NCs to represent No charge as std eg. for a Monaco or till I find a confirmed price. Many items I show would nit actually appear on the label. It's just for car show display and general info.

69Coronet and blue fury are correct regarding broadcast sheet usage. They were used all over the plant to inform assemblers what items go on a given assembly. Different stations printed out the sheet at the start of that line. I spent one night-shift at Dodge Main printing them out and hanging them from the hood just as painted vehicles entered the Trim Shop. Other stations that probably printed one out would be pre Body Shop, I.P. assembly when done off line, final line where wheels and tires installed etc.

 

[413]

The certicard is used for putting info on the repair order. Put it in the machine and the work order on top and slide the deal just like a credit card machine.

 

[CBODY67]

Chrysler was a bit unique in the amount of information the Data Plate had on it, especially when compared to GM vehicles. Ford's ID plate used to be specific, too.

IF the rear axle came from a New Yorker, it most probably had the 2.71 gear set in it, although the 3.21 was optional. Seems like there was a metal tag on the rear axle's cover that had the ratio stamped into it, in "plain, open sight"?

The Build Sheet was the vehicle's "birth certificate" of sorts, with the main items also on the Data Plate. To me, back then, the Data Plate plus good product knowledge would give you most of the information you might desire about the vehicle's factory-installed equipment. At least the major components. That was also before we fully understood all of the information on the build sheet OR its importance.

Enjoy!
CBODY67

 

[John Kirby]

What is the point here? The fender tag is just a short summery of the broadcast sheet.

In a lot of vehicles the broadcast sheet has turned to dust.