"Refreshing" a battery

mopar440

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I've got a possibly sulfated battery, waters good

I've watched alot of vids, from using 200 amps to using special chargers to refresh the battery

What's the best tool/method?

Thanks
 
Slowly charge to full. Then load and discharge, repeat several times. Set the battery on a block of wood. (Do not add electrolyte).
 
200 amps? That doesn't sound too safe. 2 amps on a trickle charger for a couple of days is what I've been told by people who work with battery's for a living.
 
I bought a desulfating & Pulsating battery charger and it saved/restored a lazy battery. I highly recommend it. Bought from Northern Tool.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200332201_200332201

200 amps will make a bomb.

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Wasn't gonna try the 200 amp thing...just bought the northern tool one, thanks for the info!
 
You will like it, just follow the lights. Mine took about 48 hours.
The whole time the voltage varies from .03-.05 volts.

can also use on AGM batteries.

tell us how it works out.
 
200 amps? That doesn't sound too safe. 2 amps on a trickle charger for a couple of days is what I've been told by people who work with battery's for a living.
I believe the 200 amp shock would knock some of the sulfation off the plates
Another thing about the battery is the sediment at the bottom of the battery. If there’s an excessive amount then unless it’s removed, the battery is done for
 
Yikes - d'ya think he might suffer from lead poisoning at some point?

It's cool to that these guys can do that, but I can't help but wonder about their health.

There's a couple of series of these guys doing this work in (I think) Pakistan. In some ways, it's really interesting to see the work being done on such a basic level, but on the other hand, it's a bit horrifying to know that there are long term effects to what they are doing.

Here's one that shows working out in the street with motorcycles whizzing by and a lot of arc welding



Building a welder

 
There's a couple of series of these guys doing this work in (I think) Pakistan. In some ways, it's really interesting to see the work being done on such a basic level, but on the other hand, it's a bit horrifying to know that there are long term effects to what they are doing.

Here's one that shows working out in the street with motorcycles whizzing by and a lot of arc welding



Building a welder



I know these series on YT, amazing ! You know Pakistani truck ? Fantastic series about trucks. Those guys repair everything and they still have all their toes :lol:
 
I know these series on YT, amazing ! You know Pakistani truck ? Fantastic series about trucks. Those guys repair everything and they still have all their toes :lol:

I've watched several of those, amazing what you can do when you have to
Several years ago their was a show called "Cuban Chrome" and how the old American cars were almost a family heirloom, passed down from father to son, and the things they did to keep them running, it was truly amazing, it only lasted one season, but I really enjoyed it
 
That's the future with government forced electric vehicles.
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I know I'm in the minority here but I wouldn't have a problem converting to my imperial to EV, it would be quieter, run smoother, have a quicker throttle response, and have less possibility of mechanical failure, a win, win ,win, win scenario
For those that like the sound of loud exhaust, digital exhaust tips with a speaker inside that is connected to the electric motor that increases with the RPMs and a digital display box inside to select the tone of the exhaust
You could select 426 hemi, lopey cam, Indy car etc
 
I personally do not think the future is likely to be with EV. "Blue Gas" hydrogen is pollution free and you don't have a guilty conscience about child slave labor mining the Lithium, cobalt and Nickel in third world dictatorships like Angola. Hydrogen is also better because there are not any toxic battery metals to be recycled. No one as yet has found a cost effective way to get rid of expended lithium ion batteries thru recycling. Regardless of whether the future lies with Hydrogen or Lithium Ion technologies, the current electric grid will need significant expansion either to generate the Hydrogen or charge the Lithium Ion batteries.

Dave
 
I believe the 200 amp shock would knock some of the sulfation off the plates
Another thing about the battery is the sediment at the bottom of the battery. If there’s an excessive amount then unless it’s removed, the battery is done for

The 200amp charge will instantly fry any battery that is leaking juice across the insulating medium between the plates.. If the charge/short creates hydrogen gas, the battery will "blow". Still have a scar on my forehead from a blown out battery cap.

Dave
 
I personally do not think the future is likely to be with EV. "Blue Gas" hydrogen is pollution free and you don't have a guilty conscience about child slave labor mining the Lithium, cobalt and Nickel in third world dictatorships like Angola. Hydrogen is also better because there are not any toxic battery metals to be recycled. No one as yet has found a cost effective way to get rid of expended lithium ion batteries thru recycling. Regardless of whether the future lies with Hydrogen or Lithium Ion technologies, the current electric grid will need significant expansion either to generate the Hydrogen or charge the Lithium Ion batteries.

Dave

I agree about the electric grid. Recent events in Texas shows how badly its needed, I would go into the reasons why it happened, but this is a forum about cars, not politics, so ill just be quiet now
Hydrogen scares me, and I'll explain why
The by product of hydrogen is water vapor right?
That sounds harmless enough on the surface, but what I've never heard brought up is........what happens when you have 10 million vehicles putting water vapor into the atmosphere?
Will it change the relative humidity? Will deserts turn into tropical rainforests?
Nobody thought about these things when there was a few thousand ICE around, but now with millions
There are so many ways to produce electricity, and recently I've heard there is enough rare earth metals at the bottom of the China sea to last a generation,that's why its so highly contested right now, its just nobody has figured out a way to get it........ yet
However, in the present, upgrading our electrical grid should be at the top of our priorities, and hope in the future technology advances so we can produce cleaner electricity, and better battery storage
 
I agree about the electric grid. Recent events in Texas shows how badly its needed, I would go into the reasons why it happened, but this is a forum about cars, not politics, so ill just be quiet now
Hydrogen scares me, and I'll explain why
The by product of hydrogen is water vapor right?
That sounds harmless enough on the surface, but what I've never heard brought up is........what happens when you have 10 million vehicles putting water vapor into the atmosphere?
Will it change the relative humidity? Will deserts turn into tropical rainforests?
Nobody thought about these things when there was a few thousand ICE around, but now with millions
There are so many ways to produce electricity, and recently I've heard there is enough rare earth metals at the bottom of the China sea to last a generation,that's why its so highly contested right now, its just nobody has figured out a way to get it........ yet
However, in the present, upgrading our electrical grid should be at the top of our priorities, and hope in the future technology advances so we can produce cleaner electricity, and better battery storage

Water vapor is a green house gas. But the amount of it is constant, only its form changes; vapor, liquid or ice. The main item to remember is that the amount of water used to create Hydrogen and Oxygen returns to the same amount of water as the Hydrogen and Oxygen are reacted. Water is neither created or destroyed in this operation. The climate processes will freeze, vaporize or precipitate the water, but the same amount of it is still around.
Dave
 
Water vapor is a green house gas. But the amount of it is constant, only its form changes; vapor, liquid or ice. The main item to remember is that the amount of water used to create Hydrogen and Oxygen returns to the same amount of water as the Hydrogen and Oxygen are reacted. Water is neither created or destroyed in this operation. The climate processes will freeze, vaporize or precipitate the water, but the same amount of it is still around.
Dave

I'll take you at your word about that, I haven't studied enough about hydrogen to make an informed statement about it, but even agreeing with what you said, we'll still be converting liquid to vapor, which will be returning to liquid eventually, and if used on a global scale will mean a substantial amount of rain, snow, ice, fog, who knows
The only thing I do know is that dinosaur juice isn't going to last forever, and unless we develop a truly synthetic petroleum, or go to bio fuels, the ICE days are numbered
If you've ever done much reading about Nikola Tesla, it's a sad story, but that man had some interesting ideas, truly ahead of his time, I wish he was around today, I'd give him a far better chance of solving our problems than I give Elon
Edison is credited with electrifying our homes, but if Edison had his way the lights in our homes would be powered by batteries
I honestly believe the 21st century will define mankind, we'll either flourish of fail by the end of this century, I won't be around to see it, but I guarantee in 2100 we won't be using a conventional internal combustion engine, and if we are, we'll be looking at Mad Max IRL
well I'm going to move along now, I've hijacked poor "mopar440" thread enough
 
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