Kapt
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It's a V8 power steering car. Will anything more modern fit on a 60? I'd like to upgrade both the box and the steering column if anything newer will fit the car and able to change with the engine installed
60 Dart Steering Box
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My advice would be to have Firm-Feel or another quality supplier service and upgrade your existing unit. You are sure to have a gear and column that fits that way. Mopar used similar mounting systems for the steering gears for a lot of years, but the gears that were used in that time were not very much different in terms of performance and reliability.
Most "modern" steering systems use a rack and pinion system that probably could be adapted by a specialty suspension/steering shop, but you are going to be into some serious bucks to get that done.
Dave
Most "modern" steering systems use a rack and pinion system that probably could be adapted by a specialty suspension/steering shop, but you are going to be into some serious bucks to get that done.
Dave
69PHOENIX
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O.K.
Long & Possibly Boring Rant to Follow.
Many Years Ago I had a 1959 Dodge Custom Royale.
Wanted to Convert to 69 Plymouth Fury P/Steer.
Had a Fella with a 59 Plymouth Fury who Also wanted similar.
He was a Truck Chassis Modifier / Designer.
The Chassis in My 59 was 80 Cm (Approx 31.5 Inches) between the Rails, the Sub Frame in the 69 was 81 Cm between the Rails. (Approx 31.75 ? Inches)
Obviously Very Close.
I Supplied a Complete Set of P/Steer in Exchange for Him Doing My Chassis when He had Finished his Own.
He managed to Do the Conversion & was Very Happy with the Result.
Sadly He Passed away before he could Convert My Car.
But as I remember it was a Matter of Mainly Notching the Chassis to Accept the Later Model Box. I Assume Copying from the 69 Sub Frame Design.
(Please Remember we are Talking R.H.D., Compared to L.H.D., The P/S Box Sits In an Entirely Different Location on the Chassis Rail, Not Just Mirror Imaged.)
Please take Note. Modifying a Chassis is Definitely NOT a Job for the Average Competent Welder, He has to Know & be Experienced in Chassis Welding / Modifying.
Having said that, I do Feel that it is Not That Big a Job if You Know What Your are Doing. Just Not a Job for a Backyard Welder. Even an Experienced One.
In Regard to Rack & Pinion, Although I know of a Number of "A" Body Conversions that are "Apparently" Successful, (Mainly for 383 / 440 BB Conversions)
I also know of a Couple of "C" Body Fellas who Converted to Power R&P and were Really NOT Satisfied with the Result. (Super Wide Turning Circle, Heavy Handling Etc.)
Now I Need to Put a Qualifier on My Remarks.
This was 25 Years Ago & here in OZ. We Just Did / Do Not have the Variety of Resources or Technology that is Available in the States.
(You Fellas have a Far Wider Range of Vehicles to Choose From)
I will leave it up to your Fellow Americans to Best Advise You.
Just Hoping these Comments May Prove Helpful / Informative!
Kind Regards. Tony.M
Long & Possibly Boring Rant to Follow.
Many Years Ago I had a 1959 Dodge Custom Royale.
Wanted to Convert to 69 Plymouth Fury P/Steer.
Had a Fella with a 59 Plymouth Fury who Also wanted similar.
He was a Truck Chassis Modifier / Designer.
The Chassis in My 59 was 80 Cm (Approx 31.5 Inches) between the Rails, the Sub Frame in the 69 was 81 Cm between the Rails. (Approx 31.75 ? Inches)
Obviously Very Close.
I Supplied a Complete Set of P/Steer in Exchange for Him Doing My Chassis when He had Finished his Own.
He managed to Do the Conversion & was Very Happy with the Result.
Sadly He Passed away before he could Convert My Car.
But as I remember it was a Matter of Mainly Notching the Chassis to Accept the Later Model Box. I Assume Copying from the 69 Sub Frame Design.
(Please Remember we are Talking R.H.D., Compared to L.H.D., The P/S Box Sits In an Entirely Different Location on the Chassis Rail, Not Just Mirror Imaged.)
Please take Note. Modifying a Chassis is Definitely NOT a Job for the Average Competent Welder, He has to Know & be Experienced in Chassis Welding / Modifying.
Having said that, I do Feel that it is Not That Big a Job if You Know What Your are Doing. Just Not a Job for a Backyard Welder. Even an Experienced One.
In Regard to Rack & Pinion, Although I know of a Number of "A" Body Conversions that are "Apparently" Successful, (Mainly for 383 / 440 BB Conversions)
I also know of a Couple of "C" Body Fellas who Converted to Power R&P and were Really NOT Satisfied with the Result. (Super Wide Turning Circle, Heavy Handling Etc.)
Now I Need to Put a Qualifier on My Remarks.
This was 25 Years Ago & here in OZ. We Just Did / Do Not have the Variety of Resources or Technology that is Available in the States.
(You Fellas have a Far Wider Range of Vehicles to Choose From)
I will leave it up to your Fellow Americans to Best Advise You.
Just Hoping these Comments May Prove Helpful / Informative!
Kind Regards. Tony.M
Kapt
Member
Here's what I'm wanting to do, and why I'm asking. I want to add a tilt column in my Dart. From what I've come to understand this is no easy task with the 60 box. That's why I'm asking if something from a newer car will cross over and fit
livininharrow
Senior Member
can i ask why you want a tilt column? or need one
Kapt
Member
Well, the best answer I can give you us, "Why not?" lol. My column is pretty wore out. The threads for the wheel nut are about shot, and it's almost impossible to find a wheel adapter for the 60 since they were only made for one year and have long been discontinued. I have an aftermarket steering wheel now, but it's not right. Changing everything over will resolve an issue or two, and give me a new option I don't have now. Then there's the "Why not?" and adding tilt
livininharrow
Senior Member
answered my question. good luck.
Kapt
Member
Thanks
Floyd Richard Sr.
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I build complete ("everything you would need to convert") Power Steering Conversion kits for:
1955 and 1956 Dodge and Plymouth
1957 thru 1961 Chrysler, Imperial, Desoto, Dodge and Plymouth.
If interested give me a call or Email
Floyd Richard Sr.
YouTurn Power Steering Conversions
Santa Fe,Texas
409-789-4064
Email-- [email protected]
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