1965 Dodge Polara 440 383 4 speed

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I saw this car last spring at a cruise night and fell in love. Not only was it very close to the Polara 880 I had seen at the same event in almost the same parking spot 10+ years earlier, it was a 383 4 speed car. There couldnt have been too many of these built, let alone being a Canadian car. It was pretty cool to see! I only saw the car once so I doubt its local. I really do hope to see it again some day. One things for certain. If it were mine, those cragars would be gone! Full disks & white walls!

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I don,t like the fury dashes in the canadian dodges...........
Why did they do that.....??
( Nice car ..!!! ).
 
great car , going to convert my 65 880 rag to a 426 wedge with a a833 4spd and buckets with the folding arm rest/sweety seat . got some buckets from a 66 300 , 66 plymouth offer up the 4 spd conversion parts . my 880 in usa built car . dodge dash is cooler than the plymouth i think .
 
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I don,t like the fury dashes in the canadian dodges...........
Why did they do that.....??
( Nice car ..!!! ).

Something to do with the Autopac Agreement between Canada and the US. I forget the details but there was weirdness across The Big 3. Canadian Pontiacs were built on Chev platforms, Meteor was on a Ford and Plodges. Canada only brands like Acadian which started as a Chevy II and then morphed into a Chevelle, , Mercury pick up trucks and Valiants that were re-badged Darts. There was also Chrysler Windsor which was a Newport.

Kevin
 
The Fury instrument panel, and interior upholstery, was due to the low production in Canada, which has always had a population roughly 10% of the U.S. The Canadian Dodge did battle against the Canadian Pontiac and the Canadian Meteor (a Mercury Monterey with Ford interiors from 1964 and on) as all three were priced about $100 above the Fury, Ford Galaxie and full-size Chevrolet models. And all three, Dodge, Pontiac and Meteor, were the result of keeping costs of production in line and offering low-priced cars at all dealers - Plymouth-Chrysler, Dodge-DeSoto (then Dodge-Chrysler), Ford-Monarch (then Ford), Mercury-Meteor, Chevrolet-Oldsmobile and Pontiac-Buick.

The Acadian was based on the Chevy II/Nova from 1962 to the end in mid-1971 when it was replaced by the Pontiac Ventura. The intermediate Beaumont arrived for 1964 based on the Chevelle and was called the Acadian Beaumont only in 1964-65 and was dropped at the end of the 1969 model year being replaced by the Pontiac LeMans. The Canadian Pontiac, Acadian and Beaumont used Chevrolet engines and transmissions.

The Autopact agreement between Canada and the U.S. permitted the shipment of parts, cars and trucks by North American plants both ways across the border duty free starting with the 1966 models. This helped bring about the end of the Canadian variations. Prior to that all parts and cars imported from the U.S. were subject to import duties and various taxes.

In the case of Dodge, Chrysler Canada began building Polara, Monaco, and Fury models for the U.S. market for 1967 and imported all the other car lines. The Canadian market C body Dodge continued to use Fury interiors but now with Dodge instrument panels. The end of the Plymouth- based Dodges began with the American Dodge dropping a notch in price starting in 1971, the U.S. Polara now priced against the Fury II instead of the Fury III and Catalina. Chrysler Canada offered the Polara Special in 1971-73 and Monaco Special in 1974-75, with Fury I interiors, as the new base model.

The Chrysler Windsor and Saratoga names continued in Canada after they were dropped in the U.S. The Windsor starting in 1963 was available only with the optional Newport interior and had Torqueflite, wheel covers and back up lights as standard. For 1967 Chryslers were imported from the U.S. and the Windsor was replaced by the Newport Custom. The Saratoga became the 300 for 1966, although it used Windsor taillights, and the US 300 2 door hardtop and convertible models were imported and sold as the Sport 300.

Canadian-built Dodges were never considered export vehicles as they were built in the Canada and not imported from Detroit prior to 1966 (with some exceptions such as convertibles from 1937 through to 1962).
 
By the way, in the photos of the Canadian Polara 440 hardtop, the grey car next to it is a 1951 Canadian Pontiac Fleetleader Deluxe two door sedan. Basically a Chevrolet with a Pontiac grille, instrument panel and flathead six engine. It had Chevrolet's torque-tube drive and offered Powerglide automatic as an option.
 
I do have production figures for the 1965 Dodge Polara 440 -

AD1/2-M 41 : 4 door sedan : 7,517
AD1/2-M 23 : 2 door hardtop : 3,657
AD1/2-M 45 : 4 door wagon, 2-seat : 1,182
AD1/2-M 46 : 4 door wagon, 3-seat : 349
Total AD1/2-M models : 12,705

AD1-M had the 225 slant six while the base engine on the AD2-M was the 318 V8. Have no figures on how many of each body style had a 6 or V8.
 
I do have production figures for the 1965 Dodge Polara 440 -

AD1/2-M 41 : 4 door sedan : 7,517
AD1/2-M 23 : 2 door hardtop : 3,657
AD1/2-M 45 : 4 door wagon, 2-seat : 1,182
AD1/2-M 46 : 4 door wagon, 3-seat : 349
Total AD1/2-M models : 12,705

AD1-M had the 225 slant six while the base engine on the AD2-M was the 318 V8. Have no figures on how many of each body style had a 6 or V8.

Is this total or just Canadian production? Makes my 9 pass wagon a fairly rare bird either way.

Kevin
 
I do have production figures for the 1965 Dodge Polara 440 -

AD1/2-M 41 : 4 door sedan : 7,517
AD1/2-M 23 : 2 door hardtop : 3,657
AD1/2-M 45 : 4 door wagon, 2-seat : 1,182
AD1/2-M 46 : 4 door wagon, 3-seat : 349
Total AD1/2-M models : 12,705

AD1-M had the 225 slant six while the base engine on the AD2-M was the 318 V8. Have no figures on how many of each body style had a 6 or V8.
bill.
do you have production numbers for canadian 65 plymouths?
 
I don,t like the fury dashes in the canadian dodges...........
Why did they do that.....??
( Nice car ..!!! ).


The Plymouth I/P was used on Dodges in Canada because of the cost of bringing in the US Dodge I/P panel. The autopact only was signed in 1965 and it took a full two years before all of the manufacturers could take full advantage of it. Chrysler was paying duty on parts it brought in from the US. Plymouth production was somewhat higher than Dodge, and since either panel would fit either car, it made sense to use the higher volume part in both car lines. And as another poster pointed out, the Plymouth I/P was used on cars exported out of North America whether the car was built in Canada or not.
 
Is this total or just Canadian production? Makes my 9 pass wagon a fairly rare bird either way.

Kevin

The Polara 440 was a Canada-only series, as was the Polara 880. Both continued for 1966 but in 1967 the Polara 440 became the Polara 500 and the Polara 880 became the Monaco. The 1965-66 Monaco became the Monaco 500.
 
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bill.
do you have production numbers for canadian 65 plymouths?

I do not have a breakdown by engine (6 or V8), only by the total for that body style. Have attached what I have for the 1965 Plymouth. The "export" with the American information actually is for KD production.

1965 Plymouth Production C.jpg
 
What about the rest of the 65 Canadian Dodge line up ...any breakdown ?

Much the same as the 1965 Plymouth information - have only the totals for each body style and not how many with the slant six or a V8.

Also, I do not know how many 330 sedans and wagons were built.

1965 Dodge Production C.jpg
 
I saw this car last spring at a cruise night and fell in love. Not only was it very close to the Polara 880 I had seen at the same event in almost the same parking spot 10+ years earlier, it was a 383 4 speed car. There couldnt have been too many of these built, let alone being a Canadian car. It was pretty cool to see! I only saw the car once so I doubt its local. I really do hope to see it again some day. One things for certain. If it were mine, those cragars would be gone! Full disks & white walls!

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This car is currently for sale in Port Hope Ontario at a Dodge dealership. They are asking between $25,000 and $30,000 for it. It needs a little work, but a 1965 Polara 440 with bench seat and a 4 speed must be pretty rare, any ideas on what it might be worth?
 
Good question.
My 66 polara 880 was appraised last summer.
By a straight shooter guy. He took a page of notes and went home to research.
My car started life as a poly auto car.
I it's now 440 4 speed. Bench seat. I told the appraiser what I did to it.
My car is basically rust free. Original faded paint and pretty straight. New brakes, fuel system, steering and suspension.
It appraised at 15 grand.
So the blue car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it.
I feel 20 plus is possibly on the high side.
 
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