Rwc
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My 1970 fury has a 318, and after years of sitting is stuck. Has anyone ever used the rebuild kit from summit racing? The price is very reasonable ($410) with pistons. Never bought a kit like this and would appreciate any input.
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68Bigred
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Rebuild keep will be the cheap part. Better plan on getting blocked bored it the pistons seized. Have block inspected as that will determine pistons ex. .030 .040 over.
Rwc
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I am not very experienced with engine rebuilds, and only want to do it once. With a 318 how far is reasonable to go with boring?
bluefury361
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Value of the rebuild kit may depend on what is included with it. Sometimes a good local enging builder can make a better deal for you.
.030 is a good cleanup bore. You can go to .060 with no problems. You'll want to have hardned seats installed in the heads, usually around $200.00 over the rebuild cost. If the cam & lifters check out OK you can reuse them to save a few bucks. A double roller timing chain & gear set, a new oil pump, and water pump.
If the crank is OK it will just need to be polished. .010 or .020 under is normal. Won't hurt to have the componants balanced either, but not necessary. Around $150.00 aditional.
This is assuming a stock rebuild. You'll need all this information ahead of time to order the correct size pistons, rings & bearings.
It's also very important to have the block casting and the heads boiled, (cleaned).
Expect to invest 12-1500.00 in the rebuild.
Machining can be pretty expensive. Are you dead set on keeping the original engine?
Wollfen
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How many miles are there on the engine? Have you WD40 all the piston bores first and let it soak for a few days before putting a breaker bar on the crank and tried to move it? You may be lucky and find it releases easy, who knows until you try. If it does turn over easy then give it a kick and see how it runs for awhile,. I have had engine that felt locked before and once you get them turning over again would still be good. Of course sometimes they are not, but in my mind, why spend the money until you work out which way it goes?
I would buy the kit from the machine shop.
It's been my experience that the shop will figure out the amount of boring and therefore the oversize of the pistons and if they regrind the crank, they will get the correct undersize bearings. If they have to go larger (bore) or smaller (crank) then they are the ones getting the correct stuff and not you trying to return an open rebuild kit to Summit.
It will be pretty close to the same price, maybe even cheaper... but the headaches will be less and the shop will tend to stand behind their work if you bought the parts from them.
One thing you can do.. and it really won't be that much more money is have the shop assemble the short block if you aren't comfortable with doing that yourself.
It's been my experience that the shop will figure out the amount of boring and therefore the oversize of the pistons and if they regrind the crank, they will get the correct undersize bearings. If they have to go larger (bore) or smaller (crank) then they are the ones getting the correct stuff and not you trying to return an open rebuild kit to Summit.
It will be pretty close to the same price, maybe even cheaper... but the headaches will be less and the shop will tend to stand behind their work if you bought the parts from them.
One thing you can do.. and it really won't be that much more money is have the shop assemble the short block if you aren't comfortable with doing that yourself.
Rwc
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No I'm not. The car has 114,000 miles on it. About 3,000 miles (25 years) ago it had. New rings and a new cam
frito dave
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Sure you don't have a dead battery or bad starter. No reason why after all those years it won't crank over unless it sat outside with the hood off or the block cracked.
Rwc
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Ah, the battery....it is very dead. I just tried spinning it. by hand. It wasn't outside, but an old garage with a wooden floor.
Is that the shed in the back ground of your avatar and can I see some photo's of this wooden floor and inside said shed?
Sounds very cool and rustic
Rwc
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Yes. Cool and damp, rustic? Not so much. It won't be going back in there. It's going to spend the winter in a nice heated garage with a lift. Some thing it never experienced before.
I'd still like to see pics .. bet it would be an awesome place for a chance love affair during a rainstorm.
I saw that in a movie one time
I saw that in a movie one time
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You want to have a love affair in that guys damp shed? Bryan I'm worried about you a bit...
Aw it just reminded me to that scene .. I like rustic garages, barns, sheds, though. Wooden floor sounded interesting
Geez... I'd squirt some transmission fluid down the plug holes and let it soak a few days. That could get it to break loose.
If it's been stored inside, chances are the cylinders aren't that bad.
If it's been stored inside, chances are the cylinders aren't that bad.
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Thin it down with 50% acetone and it'll penetrate that much faster. Turn it on and let the rings clean up the mess then drive and enjoy for a few more years.
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I think there's stuff lining in there mr. Clean would run away from...
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