65 Plymouth vin locations

Early C Bodies - The Slab Side Years

  1. c300g

    c300g Member

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    A friend of mine picked up this 1965 Plymouth Savoy 2 door post over the summer.
    I noticed right away that this car was very unusual.
    -Base model 2 door sedan
    -383 2 barrel
    -sway bar
    -padded dash
    -rubber floor mat
    -deluxe arm rests

    The fact that the car was a black 2 door base model, blue interior with a 383, sway bar and rubber floor mats is really what has me scratching my head. I'm starting to suspect this may have been an Ontario Provincial Police car.
    Sadly both the vin tag and data tag are missing making research very challenging. What I'd like to know is if there were any other locations where the vin may have been stamped. I really hope this won't be a dead end for research.

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  2. LeBaron1973

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    For a start, this is a 1965 Plymouth Fury due to the body, the front fenders changed in 1965 It would seem that the vin was only on the tags you no longer have but the sequence number S.O. is located on the upper portion of the drivers side radiator support- whether that's much use without the tags to verify I'm uncertain, but others with a 65 will surely comment.

    My information came from MMC Detroit:
    Www.mmcdetroit.com/Facts_Sheets/11_27_2011.html

    Hope this is of some assistance. Is your friend going to restore the car?
     
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  3. 300rag

    300rag Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    The base trim level was called Fury I in the US. In Canada, it was still Savoy for the 65 year.
     
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    Ok thx, wikipedia didn't mention that.
     
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    its a savoy. canadian model, same as mine.
    we are going to strip the good parts off it in the spring. theres not much left of it. even the sway bar is broken!
     
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    Well, at least what's still useful will be saved and the rest recycled- better than rotting away somewhere.
     
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    I'm sure others know a lot more about this than I do, but I am aware that they stamped VIN info into a couple of "secret" body locations. One of my 65 Dodges has one stamped into the top of the cowl (just barely hidden by the weatherstrip). Another one doesn't have anything at all in this location. If I remember some other reported locations . . . I think maybe somewhere on the trunk lip, or up on the metal package tray under the rear window. I was told that these were placed to help law enforcement identify body parts in theft recovery (chop-shop). Also, the letter "I" was used instead of the digit "1" . . . so it'll look weird when you see it!
     
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    If a '65 is anything like the newer cars, I think you should also find the sequence number under the trunk seal, driver's side, towards the top where a lot of cars have the trunk light on/off switch located.

    I "does" sound like a cop car except it's missing 2 doors.....maybe part of a company's salesman fleet?
     
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    This all sounds correct (hadn't heard about the cowl lip number). Starting '68 they started adding the sequence number to the engine block & transmission too.
     
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    OPP used 2 doors in 1965.
    the only things that don't make sense is the WS washer reservoir, padded dash and deluxe arm rests.

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    Hmmm.... maybe a captain or something?
     
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    The front sway bars were optional on the LA-engine base model cars, but came standard with the B/RB cars. A good dealer would order the optional sway bar on a 318 separately or it came with a basic equipment group option package.

    Either somebody wanted an inexpensive Plymouth C-body with better engine power and a few interior upgrades (with a salesperson who knew how to manipulate the vehicle order form!)
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    was a fleet car of sorts.

    As noted, the VIN/sequence number was stamped in several "secret"/covered locations on the vehicles to help combat the "chop shops" of that time. No way to convict the perps if the vehicles couldn't be tracked accurately. On some, the number was under the antifreeze label on the core support, from what I've seen. Under the deck lid weatherstip/on the drip rail of the deck lid area was another one. Seems like there are a few other places on commonly "dis-located" body sections, too? Plus possibly on the powertrain items, too.; More locations with the later model years.

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    The 1965 Plymouth Savoy and Dodge 330 came with rubber floor mats and arm rests only on the front doors. Not sure what "deluxe arm rests" are, but I notice the glove box is stuffed full of arm rests, some with ash trays. The ones with an ash tray are for the rear seat.

    Also, the car has a radio. And prior to the 1980's radios were optional.

    Two door police cars were not unusual in Canada. I know the Winnipeg Police had Fury I 2 door sedans in 1969 and Dart 2dr sedans in 1962. A friend owned one of the latter. Also, Chrysler Canada did not use the model code "K" for police cars until the 1970's. Instead you chose the series you wanted and the police package(s).

    1965 was also the last year Chrysler Canada used the body tag listing Model No., Body No., Trim Code and Paint Code. 1966 was the first year for the U.S. style body tag with S.O.N.

    Also, the W/S reservoir?
     
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    Bill.
    Deluxe arm rests were longer and went around the door handle while the standard arm rest was shorter and ended before the door handle.
    While I have not seen many 65 Savoys, the few I have seen all had rear arm rests with ash receivers.

    Not a great shot but you can see the arm rest in my 65 Savoy. compare this to the one in the parts car.

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    My bad, I just noticed I never posted a photo of the arm rest in the parts car.

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    That one is the same as my 300

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    Yes, now I know to what you were referring. Your Savoy has the correct arm rests up front and the correct optional ones in the rear. The deluxe style was available on the upper series - Fury III and Sport Fury.

    Your 1965 Savoy brings back memories. My father's first new car was a 1965 Dodge 330 4 door sedan, slant six engine with one option - Torqueflite. The interior was like your Savoy, only in tan instead of blue and no optional rear arm rests. Exterior was French Ivory. The Plymouth "sail" in the steering wheel centre and the door panels was replaced by the "Fratzog" on the Dodge. Learned to drive on that car. My father had the dealer install back up lights some months later after a neighbour purchased a 1965 Polara 880 with the lights. Thought they were a great idea.

    A few years later a friend purchased a 1965 Dodge 330 sedan, slant six, red with the optional arm rests, just like your Savoy.

    One thing about equipment on old cars. Never assume what is on the car now was on the car when the car rolled off the line. This holds especially true for items that get used a lot - like arm rests. If the car was in daily use that arm rest would have been used dozens of times a day. And somewhere along the line someone probably found some deluxe arm rests in a junk yard and replace the broken ones.

    Years ago I owned a 1965 Valiant Signet (the one that looks like a Dart GT) and it had plain arm rests up front. (Signets came with the deluxe style). The car was dark blue with mid blue upholstery but the front arm rests were done in red. Needless to say I searched around and located the correct style (and correct colour!) in a local yard.

    Your 1965 Savoy looks to be in great shape!