73 Dodge polara 440 x police

Engine, Transmission & Driveline

  1. Mopar nut

    Mopar nut New Member

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    I hope i can get some help. 1st i need to know if anyone knows were i can get a under hood engine wiring harness.
    next, had the engine rebuilt 2 years ago. Last fall i was taking a ride before i would put the car away for winter. I was on the hi-way for about 65 miles,going about 70 MPH it was about 65 degrees out. All of a sudden, the engine was shacking & bucking then very bad back fires. I thought the motor blew. I pulled over and it died. I did get it start up,seemed ok , i started driving again & then it did it again.
    I pulled off the road let it sit for 20 mins. I drove back home a a slower speed and did not have a problem. So what caused this to happen? It is the timing? Did the motor get so hot that it predesignate ?
     
  2. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    There are a lot of things that could be causing the symptoms you describe. The backfiring and missing could be a classic indication of a bad coil. If the coil is not wired properly thru a ballast resistor, it may be overheating and crapping out. This is an electronic ignition system so check the following. The electronics require a good ground. Check both battery cables and clean if necessary. Check the brain box for the electronic ignition to be sure it is also well grounded. Run a continuity test on the ballast resistor. As this condition seems to happen after the car has fully warmed up, you could also have a bad pick up module in the distributor. Next check you fuel filter to be sure it is not clogged up. Do these things and report back. Do not replace any parts until you have isolated the cause of the failure. If you do not already have one down load a FSM (Field Service Manual) for free at www.mymopar.com The manuals are in the tools reference section from their home page.

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    Mopar nut New Member

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    the battery cables are new as is the distributor
     
  4. polarus

    polarus Senior Member

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    If you have your old harness you can send it to Bill Evans, he can make a new harness using your old one as a guide.
     
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    Bill evans made one for my 300, first one wasnt right. Next one was perfect. I recommend him.
     
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    halifaxhops Retired USAF MSGT (SW) yes navy also. FCBO Gold Member

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    Check the pick up in the distributor when hot. New ones suck.
     
  7. 66 Monaco 500 365

    66 Monaco 500 365 New Member

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    I've experienced kinda similar issues when my fuel pump partially failed (the spring broke but still pumped a little at very low pressure) it only supplied fuel at low RPM, at freeway speeds it would effectively ran out of gas, but as soon as I pulled over, it picked up and ran OK.
    My $.02
     
  8. MoparapoM

    MoparapoM New Member

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    Ignition Coil. And do NOT buy a 'Cheapo Chinese' fake one. You are FAR better off scavenging an ancient OEM MoPar coil from the salvage yard.
     
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    saforwardlook Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    I thought I read not too long ago that Bill Evans was no longer making wiring hanesses?
     
  10. WissaMan

    WissaMan Well-Known Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Make sure you have the proper gap between the reluctor and pick up. When I got a new electronic ignition kit for our 68, I just dropped it in without checking that gap (my bad). I had some weird problems with it not starting right (it would on catch and start after you let go of the key, not while you were cranking it with the starter). The ignition timing was not stable either as when I'd check it with a timing light, the timing mark on the pulley would jump around. Turns out that gap was way too wide out of the box. Once we set it according to the spec in install manual everything was great. Since yours was ok for 2 years, this might not be the case, but it's worth checking if you haven't already.
     
  11. ayilar

    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Any experience ordering battery cables from Mr. Evans? I need a positive cable for Snow White (P/N 2983499 ), and his company makes them.
     
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    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    @polara71 -- why the disagreement? He emailed me that he does make that positive battery cable.

    Or, are you referring to this thread discussion?
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Then I hope you are happy and I am wrong. He is a regular vendor at Carlisle. When I have asked he has told me no he doesn't.
    If indeed he has the 100% correct cable with fusible link, please let me know asap. Missouri needs one bad ...
     
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    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    I've asked him for a photo, precisely for that reason. Can you check the P/N that I gave above ( 2983 499 ) is the one on your Polaras?
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    I can not, Missouris cable does not have a number on it.
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    So, you don't really know if he does. You are presuming he does....?
     
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    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    He has told me explicitly, twice, that he has the correct cable for a 1970 Polara with V8 and the above part number. I’m ordering and everyone will know if it’s incorrect. I’m betting it’s correct.

    PS: is the fusible link part of the cable? He adds it as an option.
     
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  18. polara71

    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Take the option, and a photo... please to share with the world.
     
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  19. ayilar

    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Here you go:

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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    does that compare well to your Pottstown car?