B7 paint formula

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  1. NY69

    NY69 New Member

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    Gonna give the ol' fat lady a fresh coat.
    But my paint guy doesn't seem te be able to get his hands on the recipe for that color.
    Not even by using paintref.com
    Using a color spectrum will do the job...
    But using the original formula is preferred.
    B7 is the color, supposed te be called "jubilee blue" according to the sources.

    If there's anyone who can help me further, I'd appreciate it.
     
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  2. CBODY67

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    One problem is that, as I understand it, the "old formula" must be translated into the currently-available pigment formulation. So, getting the "original recipe" and then trying to get the exact pigments to make it would not work, as some or all of the original pigments have been discontinued. Some might have modern equivalents.

    Now, if you take the paint on the inner surface of the deck lid, where "the sun didn't shine on it", then do a hand or computer match, with existing pigments and such, it might work decently well.

    The other issue is to find a single-stage acrylic enamel to work with, rather than current basecoat/clearcoat paints (which are a bit shinier than the orig paint was, by observation). There is one current brand of paint that still has the single-stage acrylic enamels in its product line. Similar to the old DuPont Centauri acrylic enamel that worked great when your car was new(er). Don't recall the brand, though, but one hot rod resto shop owner mentioned it a while back as being similar to the old DuPont paints.

    Another route could be to take an existing color, approximating your B7 color, and then "tint" it to match. In the middle '80s, GM used a BC/CC paint on their Chevy pickups that had softness issues when built. It was supposed to be Chrysler B5 with clearcoat on top of it. So, there might be something similar for B7, down the line.

    One thing with many "blue" colors is that some have more of a purple component than "pure blue". So what might look "close" by your eyes, might be really "off" when you put the two colors (orig and proposed) side-by-side.

    The other option would be to purchase the paint materials (primers and everything) from the GlobalTCP people. Not sure if they would do international shipping, though. I haven't done business with them, but I believe that others in here might have.

    Please keep us posted on your progress.
    CBODY67
     
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    Just went through this a few years ago. In Canada I could not get the single stage. It appears we aren’t allowed to sell it up here for some reason even though it’s available in the US. That’s why you at are having troubles. Went with basecoat/clearcoat and they just matched the colours as close as we could. That is about the only thing I am pleased with from the body shop.
     
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    I think you can buy this color premixed at www.thecoatingstore.com

    Dave
     
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    Samplingman Senior Member

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    I had no problem getting the single stage paint mixed with PPG from my local motor colors supplier. Looks spot on to me. 542B57FF-B206-49A2-AA07-8F79EAD87FC5.jpeg
     
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    @Samplingman: Indeed it does. Nice!
    Perhaps I should have mentioned that I live in NL, so no single stage paint available, and not searching for a paint supplier.
    @CBODY67: Funny that you mention that GM color; my paint guy found the same close(est) match using his spectrometer.
    I'll stick to your advise to have it made matching the inner deck lid color as closely as possible.

    Thanks for your input guys!
     
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    As for the GM paint, I used this for some hidden areas. It was close enough.

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    Well, it was quite a hassle but we took our time and came up with the next best match we could find.
    The best match to the existing colour on the inner decklid was with a little more green; the car would have turned out too green I'm afraid. So we chose the best matching colour towards blue. I had to choose between de before mentioned (slightly darker) GM colour or a slightly fresher/lighter VW colour. I chose the latter.
    Did the paintjob last sunday and it turned out quite well I think.
    I'll take a picture when I have the chance to put the car outside.
     
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  10. azblackhemi

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    Just an FYI on all classic colors, after choosing the color and getting the formula just have two ounces mixed and do a spray out to confirm it's the color you want. Better than spending thousands on the wrong color. I'm sure any of you that have been to large Mopar shows have seen ten different shades of Plum Crazy.
     
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    Despite the exceptional heat today (105), I took the opportunity to put her outside make some pictures of the result so far:

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