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  1. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    They were technically not slaves, they were paid contract labor, poorly treated, exploited and discriminated against. Many were desperately poor in China and left with the promise of work in the US. Many of the agencies contracting their labor ripped them off and the agents disappeared when wages were due. Historically they were known as the "Yellow Peril" and many restrictions were placed on further Asian immigration after the railroads were built and they were no longer needed. There were also race riots against Asians, primarily Chinese in the SF Bay area. For further reading google "Yellow Peril".

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  2. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    US greenbacks supplied by the Soreass foundation.

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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Black isn't a factor unless you make it a factor.
     
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    crv Senior Member

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    - I have not had my head in the sand, but have been seeing the transition take place over the decades. Watch that ego of yours, it could be your undoing at some stage in life.
    - Pointing out the reality of the situation isn't stooping to their level. You're once again making assumptions. I believe it goes beyond the social engineering, the sole purpose of which has been to pit white against black, divide and conquer so to speak. Historical events aside, there was hostility between the races at the moment they came together, we see this phenomena all around us in nature. Competition is part of life.
    - We all have the capacity to make our own decisions and come to our own conclusions. To play down the role and influence that jewish people have and have had, particularly in the last 70 years, throughout the West (in the USA more than in any other country) is ludicrous. You may reject the idea in your own mind, due to the world view that you have developed or perhaps due to your personal circumstances, but dismissing it as some weird conspiracy theory is simply disingenuous.
    - I already stated the scenarios which may come to fruition, separate homelands (the breaking up of nations along racial lines) or the uncontrolled demographic changes in the West. Globally, whites are already a minority, making up about 10% of the total, with falling (white) birth rates and the opposite for non-whites, add to it immigration (legal or otherwise) in large numbers into Western nations and it's not difficult to see where this is leading.
    These are logical interpretations, agree or not, we'll have to see how things play out.
     
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  5. 78Brougham

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    CHAZ .....:rofl::rofl::rofl:

    Encircle their wall with another, set up a Neutral Zone. Stop all food and other shipments from getting in, then shut off electric, gas, and water. See how long it takes for CHAZ to fold. Arrest them all as come out.

    Buh Bye CHAZ.
     
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    Fixed that for you.
     
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    ^^^^ :rofl::rofl:
     
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    defund the police. they're getting in the way!
     
  9. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    The inner cities in places like Detroit, Chicago and Baltimore have had open gang warfare going on for decades, and who runs those places? What is essentially tribal warfare breaks out over fights over who controls the drugs, rackets and hookers because that is seen in the inner city as the way to make a quick buck and gain some respect. This is the situation that is owned by blue city Democrats, they now preside over lawless inner cities of their own creation and it is about time it came back to bite them in the ass. Police are viewed as an occupation force because they try to keep a lid on the violence.

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    Detroit, you’ll notice, has not had the rioting or looting of these other big cities. Protests have been pretty peaceful. Enough so the police chief decided not to enforce curfews.
    Around the time of the state appointed Emergency Manager the feds also had over-site of the police dept. The city, though still heavily democratic, did elect a competent mayor and hired a serious police chief. The two are respected by the residents and know burning down the city is senseless.
     
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  11. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    I heard one of the other things that happened in Detroit was the the police chief encouraged law abiding citizens to own firearms as a counter to the gang and other lawless activity. I agree the situation in Detroit has been improving, but the techniques employed there seem to run counter to the rest of the Democrat big city play book.

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  12. Fratzog

    Fratzog Old Man with a Hat

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    First let me thank you for your thoughtful response.

    I'm trying to read between the lines because it seems to me at least you won't come out directly to make your point. Am I understanding you correctly when you say
    ...that you are referring to
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    If so and to address that point here is a Coles Notes version of my POV. Jewish history up until the establishment of Israel was exclusively a nation within multiple other nations. As such their modus operandi was one of cooperation within existing national frameworks primarily through trade and money lending. This cooperation while precarious allowed them a level of independence for their culture, religion and national identity. It is obvious that this kind of cooperation could be precarious as they became ensconced in national institutions to the point of dependency. A lender is never popular and can become hated particularly when debt rises to untenable levels during times of turmoil like war. Hence their being routinely booted out of their adopted home lands. As a side note their well established high IQ levels might have much to do with survival in these kind of relationships but that is purely my speculation.

    Late in the 19th century and early in the 20th century there was a 3 fold split amongst Jewish leadership. One contingent were happy to maintain the existing status quo. Another group wanted to end the cycle of expulsions and establish a homeland hence the Zionists. The 3rd group saw in socialism which was supposedly race neutral the only hope for long term survival giving us the Bolsheviks who ousted the weak Tsar Nicholas. WW1 provided the opportunity for the Zionists. By 1916 it was increasing clear that unless something dramatic happened England and France would lose the war. Without getting into detail a deal was cut to gain the Balfour Declaration in return for Jewish influence to bring the US into the war which turned the tide completely.

    Fast forward to WW2 and the chickens hatched by the Treaty of Versailles have come home to roost. Hitlers used the onerous terms of the treaty and disgust with the Jewish role in financing war as a means to gain political popularity for the Nazis. By the time 1944 rolls around and the holocaust is in full swing it dawns on the Jews that maybe strong national governments aren't such a great idea and positively dangerous to their survival. Time for a change in strategy. Long story short never allow another nation to gain world domination. Of course that makes globalism an attractive option.

    I'm guessing that to this point you don't have much to quibble about. I also agree to an extent that there is inherent competition between nations. I will suggest however that your concern that whites are only 10% or less of world population shouldn't be a concern if we can learn from the masters of survival the Jews. Moving out yourself or moving other people out simply isn't a practical solution. Rather we have the ability to compete but haven't done so. We have a successful template to follow in the US constitution which promotes the sovereignty of the individual over any defined group racial, religious or otherwise. The US did just fine when it managed its immigration on the basis of strong borders and the melting pot philosophy of integration. Things went off the rails in all western countries when the socialist took over with their collectivist/diversity mantra. There is no quicker way to destroy the values of our nations. There is no need to go anywhere if you have the brains and are willing to stand and fight for your values.
     
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  13. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    A large rally was held at the police memorial in DC to chants of "I support Blue" we are starting to see push back against the nonsense from the far left and this has great potential to blow up in the Democrats faces. By large margins, Americans generally disapprove of lawless acts as part of the BLM protests. Recent polling suggest that Americans are also in favor of keeping various confederate monuments up by a 12% point margin. Democrats appear to have overplayed their hand in encouraging these protests. See story at www.breitbart.com
    Joe Biden (or someone in the campaign still capable of thought) is clearly worried, politicians who think they are going to win do not worry about the other side "stealing" the election, that is how likely losers explain defeat.

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    - I made my point as clear as daylight. When you combine the competing forces that exist in nature with the incessant agitation of the black population by jewish groups and individuals (yes, whites are involved too), the outcome can only be division and violence. From its conception in 1909, the NAACP had jewish financiers, as well as presidents, pulling the strings, while the media attention focused on its black members. All forms of black 'enlightenment' has had the support from the same group of people. So they (jews) went from slave traders/owners, to emancipating the blacks in America and putting the entire blame on the white man. No mention of Anthony Johnson, William Ellison, both African American slave owners. Heck, even the Native Americans got in the act, they too owned black slaves!
    The manipulation of black people coupled with the suppression and distortion of historical facts is used to advance jewish power and interests, white people must be beaten down into submission in order for them to maintain and expand their grip on the West.
    What would these people's explanation be for the disgraceful treatment of black people in Israel? If a political or religious figure in the West referred to blacks as 'monkeys', they would be dismissed from their position and perhaps charged with a hate crime. Apparently not so in Israel.
    Proves the point I'm making, this shows the political and financial power and influence these people have, to be able to plunge the USA into a war with Germany, twice. The toll on human lives, gentile or otherwise, does not even enter into their equation.
    Not just the US, but the West in general did just fine, until the immigration policies which jews had been lobbying for were put in place starting in the 1960s. Allow me to point out that in this instance, 'socialist' is just another word for communist. Once again, we see the jewish mind at work, with jew Chaim Hirschel Mordechai, aka Karl Marx as the father of said ideology.
    Not even a feeble attempt since 1945. The shackles of indoctrinated self-hatred and guilt have kept the masses in check and unable to do much more than complain within the boundaries of their play pen. But for how long?
    I think it's important to make it clear that I do not paint everyone with the same brush, lest I be accused of indiscriminate hatred towards any one racial group. Some will not agree due to the religious implication, but I believe it has been a struggle between good and evil since time immemorial. I treat people in the same manner that they treat me, be it respect, indifference or confrontation.
    An elite, egotistical and evil minority has control on the direction and planned destruction of Western civilization, this I oppose.
    I hope this answers your questions.
     
  15. Fratzog

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    I'm definitely missing your point. Are you saying the majority of slave owners in America were not whites? Or are you saying there wouldn't have been a slave trade save and except for the Jews? About 20000 slaves (out of a total of roughly 4000000) were owned by non-whites at any one time in the 19th century. Yes this fact is glossed over but in my mind doesn't mitigate in the least what happened. Instead it reinforces my contention that as soon as other groups are viewed as "inferior" it is a slippery slope.

    If we agree that the ethnocentrism of Israel toward black Jews (and those of Spanish and Arabic background) is inherently "evil" then we must also agree that any form of collective action by any race towards another race is also evil. It would also then only make sense that western nations stake their claim to the moral high ground by maintaining the principle that individual sovereignty should never be undermined by any form of collectivism. Just so there is no mistake I'm referring to individualism not in the anarchist/libertarian sense but rather in the sense of the renaissance and as outlined in the US constitution. Individualism and basic liberties can only exist in a democracy. Collectivism on the other hand is inherently totalitarian.

    If you are characterising Jews as the exclusive evil minority, then we will agree to disagree. I think the Chinese nation has far more to do with it. I'll go so far as to say Jews are acting in the best interests of their nation (both the diaspora and Zionists). Our respective governments would do well to take the same approach. Just as an aside I'd say Australia has done much better in this regard than Canada has.
     
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    In another development, polling of over the road truckers suggests that they will refuse to deliver freight to cities that de-fund the police. Story at www.breitbart.com

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    Wait, weren't Jews slaves at some point?

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    Fratzog Old Man with a Hat

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    Good point. The main impetus for the diaspora was the 2nd century destruction of Judea by the Romans who then sold Jews as slaves.
     
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    Slaves? I thought they were just cheap? :rofl:
     
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    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    They were slaves to the Egyptians and probably the Assyrians and Babylonians as well. There was a wide variety of competing ancient empires that over ran the Jewish areas of the middle east.

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