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  1. 1970cat

    1970cat Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    looks like pfizer has miraculously come up with a 90% effective vaccine this week. hopefully the distribution plan will be able to get it to those who need or want it . personally, i think using the military was an excellent idea for distribution.
    https://news.yahoo.com/pfizer-says-...6bOVVifSpgh4e-cxpR1M16vAyY8jJpVN1wIYqaKlyizNr
    also, the cdc came out with this today.
    The C.D.C. updates its findings: Mask-wearing protects you, not just those around you.
    The C.D.C. updates its findings: Mask-wearing protects you, not just those around you.

    although:
    CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/21/cdc-covid-aerosols-airborne-guidelines/

     
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  2. CBODY67

    CBODY67 Old Man with a Hat

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    The military is a group that can be configured at will. One catch is the super cold temp the Phizer vaccine needs to not degrade during storage/transportation. One way or another, it will get distributed.
     
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    1970cat Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Welder guy Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    Dry ice maybe?
     
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    It can be done i get minus 30 deliveries all the time. Just putting the resources where they belong. Pretty sure they knew the shipping requirements a ways back
     
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    Absolutely FANTASTIC news! Thanks!

    Really like that Pfizer refused gov't funding to keep the bureaucrats out. Well Done!

    Masks are mandatory at work. The filaments from breathing through them make me sneeze. Don't know what else masks are doing. Will be glad to get rid of them. Come on Spring!
     
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    That sucks. Maybe it's just the masks drying out the air. Hope they're not the health hazard I think they are. At least I don't smoke so I can clean the mask filaments out if they're getting in.
     
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    in light of the current vaccine news this article may be a little outdated. Fauci: Masks, Social Distancing Likely Until 2022 as i understand it, pfizer vaccinated 44000 people. 90 or so developed covid 19, 80 of those got placebos. out of the 44000 people, pfizer only checked for infection those subjects that developed symptoms, is that correct?
     
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    Joeychgo Administrator Staff Member

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    I heared they could only produce about 20 million doses a month. That means it'll take about 18 months to vaccinate everyone in the US
     
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    1970cat Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    i think they have a list of priorities for the vaccine. health care workers, essential workers, teachers etc.
     
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    rags Senior Member

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    the virus has been in humans for almost a year now so we should be able to get idea of how well the antibodies last and the possible extent and severity of reinfection.
     
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    I can think of no way to enforce any kind of mandatory vaccination program by the government... I suspect you'll get many employers who will require it, colleges, schools, long term health care facilities, etc. You might get health insurance companies requiring the vaccine or refusing to cover health care expenses for covid if you dont get the vaccine.

    Well, the soonest vaccine expected to be available is suppose to have 90% effectiveness. As far as safety, I think we will have a much better idea after a few months, which most of us wont have the vaccine anyway since they'll vaccinate high risk and health care workers first.

    Problem is, this vaccine is rumored to require 2 doses and the manufacturer has said it can make 20 million doses a month. Without some kind of change, that is a problem. 330 million people in the US x 2 doses = 660 million doses needed. That will take almost 3 years to produce enough vaccine JUST for the US.
     
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    300rag Waiting out the storm FCBO Gold Member

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    Output could easily be increased if the major players would come to some agreement whereby the vaccine could be produced by a partnership deal of some sort allowing more facilities to produce it. That would be a pipe dream though.
     
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    They may do something like that to deal with other countries maybe?
     
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    Fratzog Old Man with a Hat

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    For most folks that would be the definition of mandatory. I could also envision movement/travel restrictions on those without a vaccine.

    It is still early days wrt safety to get overly hopeful. I've read the FDA is requiring that companies track at least half of study volunteers for two months to look for side effects before asking the agency to review their vaccine. That's about when side effects have cropped with other vaccines.

    How the roll out is managed will tell the tale.
     
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    That will be interesting. I heard the military will handle the logistics.
     
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