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Couldn’t find the fender tag thread. Here is one from my 70

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I’ve found that a lot of the online decoders don’t seem to like C bodies.
Perhaps someone here might establish a list of all those codes gathered here from decoding tags.
ayilar? ayilar?:rolleyes:
 
I’ve found that a lot of the online decoders don’t seem to like C bodies.
Perhaps someone here might establish a list of all those codes gathered here from decoding tags.
ayilar? ayilar?:rolleyes:
I've found this one that works pretty well for fusies. Using MyMopar's decoder for @1970300vert's tan 'vert, CM27T0C176254 -- I got the following:

CM: Chrysler Medium (300 in 1970)
27: Convertible

T: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
0: 1970
C: Jefferson Avenue, MI, USA

176254: Sequence number

E85: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
D32: Heavy Duty Automatic Transmission
FT6: Burnt Tan Poly Exterior Color
M6T5: Trim - Opt. Decor Group, Vinyl Bucket Seats, Tan
FT6: Burnt Tan Poly Int. Door Frames
C05: Build Date: December 05, 1969
019409: Order number

V3W: White Convertible Top
R13: Deluxe AM Radio (5 1/2 Watts)
P31: Power Windows

L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
C21: Center Front Seat Cushion

B51: Power Brakes
G15: Tinted Windshield
V7W: Accent Stripes, White
 
I've found this one that works pretty well for fusies.

But for this 1973 tag:

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MyMopar returns:

PP46:
Plymouth Fury
Premium
9 Passenger Wagon

T3D: Unknown
1973
Belvidere, IL, USA

132592: Sequence number

E85: 440 cid 4 barrel V8 350hp
D34: Light Duty Automatic Transmission
JY9: Dark Gold Poly Exterior Color [Chrysler-Plymouth: Tahitian Gold Poly]
E4Y4: Trim - Unknown, Vinyl Split Bench Seat, Gold/Black [Y4 = Gold]
JY6: Gold Poly Int. Door Frames [Chrysler-Plymouth: Golden Haze]
926: Build Date: September 26
175323: Order number

JY9: Dark Gold Poly Top Color
U: USA Specifications
A35: H .D. Trailer Towing Package
G11: Tinted Glass (all)
H51: Air Conditioning with Heater
J67: Unknown [1977: Tr/Tow Wiring Harness]

L21: Unknown [1977: Cargo Cmpt Lamp]
L31: Hood/Fender Mounted Turn Signals
M15: Unknown [1974: Bright Upper Door Frames]
M84: Tail Step Sill Plate
M91: Luggage Rack
N76: Coolant Recovery System

N88: Auto Speed Control
R11: Radio Solid State AM (2 Watts)
Y14: Sold Car
END: End of Sales Codes

The exterior color name is taken from the Dodge vocabulary, the trim code goes partially wrong and three sales codes are unknown. So it still needs some manual tweaking (in square brackets).

Afterthought: "Light Duty Automatic Transmission" in combination with "H .D. Trailer Towing Package" doesn't square either. D34 assumed many slightly different meanings over the years, by 1974 it had become "Transmission TorqueFlite Automatic, 3-Speed". Also see the D32 vs D34 thread.
 
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But for this 1973 tag:
The exterior color name is taken from the Dodge vocabulary, the trim code goes partially wrong and three sales codes are unknown. So it still needs some manual tweaking (in square brackets).

Afterthought: "Light Duty Automatic Transmission" in combination with "H .D. Trailer Towing Package" doesn't square either. D34 assumed many slightly different meanings over the years, by 1974 it had become "Transmission TorqueFlite Automatic, 3-Speed". Also see the D32 vs D34 thread.
Oh, absolutely. This is why I said "pretty well" -- thank you for making it clear that some manual adjustments are needed. Regardless, it is very helpful and I am glad that it is there as a big time-saver. Here are a couple of other adjustments needed:

The V5_ codes for vinyl inserts are another pet peeve of mine with the MyMopar decoder. I have been upbraided a number of times when I forgot to make a manual correction for those.

The A07 code on 1971 Dodge Polara and Monaco (and maybe other models) is another one that the decoder gets wrong. I have posted about it here.
 
Possibly MyMopar works reasonably fine with early Fusies and is less satisfactory for the late ones, as new sales codes were introduced.

One of the problems with the codes is that they are context-sensitive, as the IT specialist calls it. A given meaning is valid for a certain span of time, for a certain car line or in relation to the application of other codes with contrasting meanings. To a certain extent a Mopar decoder programmer probably knows this, but no one (me included) has the complete picture.
 
Possibly MyMopar works reasonably fine with early Fusies and is less satisfactory for the late ones, as new sales codes were introduced.

One of the problems with the codes is that they are context-sensitive, as the IT specialist calls it. A given meaning is valid for a certain span of time, for a certain car line or in relation to the application of other codes with contrasting meanings. To a certain extent a Mopar decoder programmer probably knows this, but no one (me included) has the complete picture.

On line decoders try to be many things to many people and therefore have to have built in compromises making them fail in many areas.
 
I used to do it. It was fun in the beginning until it turned into a full time, non paying job. Buy yourself a Galen book or two and learn a lot along the way.
 
The relation between the MyMopar online form and the code list is not as straightforward as I thought. Three codes were returned as unknown (post #6):

J67: Unknown [1977: Tr/Tow Wiring Harness]
L21: Unknown [1977: Cargo Cmpt Lamp]
M15: Unknown [1974: Bright Upper Door Frames]

But the listing has:
J67: HD wiring harness
L21: cargo lamp
M15: Up dr fr mold

So at MyMopar they know more than the decoder form admits.
 
The relation between the MyMopar online form and the code list is not as straightforward as I thought. Three codes were returned as unknown (post #6):

J67: Unknown [1977: Tr/Tow Wiring Harness]
L21: Unknown [1977: Cargo Cmpt Lamp]
M15: Unknown [1974: Bright Upper Door Frames]

But the listing has:
J67: HD wiring harness
L21: cargo lamp
M15: Up dr fr mold

So at MyMopar they know more than the decoder form admits.
That wasn't the right page.

Here is mymopars list.

MyMopar.com - 1969-1971 Mopar Option Codes
 

That settles it. The page you refer to lacks J67, L21 and M15, exactly the ones the MyMopar online decoder returned as unknown for the 1973 Sport Suburban. So their online decoder is tuned for 1969-1971, but ignores additions made to the wider list. Better save that page before it is gone!

M15 is documented on the 1969 broadcast sheet, however, with the meaning "Mouldings - Dr Upper Frame/Quarter". Maybe that code wasn't relevant to the programmer of the MyMopar online decoder, because his favourite car didn't have it.
 
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The 1 letter + 2 digits sales code format reigned from 1969 to 1983. That's 15 years of coding madness. The first years are covered by the muscle car guys, from 1977 to possibly 1983 the complete sales code list is printed on the back of the broadcast sheet. So the knowledge gap is actually small. At the moment one can say "What should I care about the early 80s?", but that's how the muscle car crowd worked. I've seen posts by owners of 1981-1983 Imperials that really don't know where to turn to decode their fender tag.
 
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