Help! Where exactly are the circuit breakers on a 68 Town & Country?

[ptc075]

Title really - the (Imperial) manual says they should be behind the left front cowl trim panel. I'm assuming they mean the kick plate in front of the front door. I've got them both off on both sides now, I don't see anything. I can only assume the circuit breakers are in a different spot on a wagon?

In fairness, I have no idea what a circuit breaker box would look like. Only time I've seen circuit breakers are in a house. I'm assuming it's going to be similar to the fuse block under the steering wheel? If someone could also post a photo of what I'm supposed to be looking for, that's about where I'm at right this moment.

Since it's story time, I'll go ahead & say, man, it's a great day here in Georgia. I was finally able to make the time to take my rear doors apart and get my new-to-me door handles mounted correctly. It went so well, I said, hey, I've got time, and the manual even shows me which pins to jump in order to test the window motor, this should be easy. Well now I have zero power windows instead of 3. Which, well, that's how car repairs go somedays.

-Thanks
-Chris

 

[HOT FURY]

What are you trying to correct or fix? You probably mean the fuse block which you have already located

 

[Big_John]

Title really - the (Imperial) manual says they should be behind the left front cowl trim panel. I'm assuming they mean the kick plate in front of the front door. I've got them both off on both sides now, I don't see anything. I can only assume the circuit breakers are in a different spot on a wagon?

In fairness, I have no idea what a circuit breaker box would look like. Only time I've seen circuit breakers are in a house. I'm assuming it's going to be similar to the fuse block under the steering wheel? If someone could also post a photo of what I'm supposed to be looking for, that's about where I'm at right this moment.

Since it's story time, I'll go ahead & say, man, it's a great day here in Georgia. I was finally able to make the time to take my rear doors apart and get my new-to-me door handles mounted correctly. It went so well, I said, hey, I've got time, and the manual even shows me which pins to jump in order to test the window motor, this should be easy. Well now I have zero power windows instead of 3. Which, well, that's how car repairs go somedays.

-Thanks
-Chris

There's no "box". It might be just screwed to the sheet metal or it could be on a bracket.

It looks like this:

Here's a pic from an old thread I found while looking for a picture of the breaker. This is a '68 Fury, so it would not surprise me if it's the same. Driver side, kick panel location.

 

[ptc075]

First off, thanks for the quick replies!

I decided to clear my head & grabbed some ice cream down the street instead, then came back to clean up. I've buttoned it all back together, and the good news is the power windows that used to work, now work again. So I'm right back where I started. But I still don't know if the issue with the driver's side window is the window motor, switch, or something else. My attempt to jumper the circuit once I had the switch disassembled simply resulted in everything not working - not the desired outcome, even if it was only temporary.

If I'm understanding the manual I have, it says there's should be a fuse box and also a series of circuit breakers. When I lost power to all windows, I assumed that I had tripped the circuit breaker for that circuit, and that I would need to reset it or possibly replace. I did look at the footwells again based on y'alls photos, and found this (see 2nd image). Is that my circuit breaker? If it is, it's not clear how I would 'reset' it once it has tripped. Or if that's even the right one for the power window circuit. Is there more than one on the car?

-Thanks
-Chris

 

[Big_John]

First off, thanks for the quick replies!

I decided to clear my head & grabbed some ice cream down the street instead, then came back to clean up. I've buttoned it all back together, and the good news is the power windows that used to work, now work again. So I'm right back where I started. But I still don't know if the issue with the driver's side window is the window motor, switch, or something else. My attempt to jumper the circuit once I had the switch disassembled simply resulted in everything not working - not the desired outcome, even if it was only temporary.

If I'm understanding the manual I have, it says there's should be a fuse box and also a series of circuit breakers. When I lost power to all windows, I assumed that I had tripped the circuit breaker for that circuit, and that I would need to reset it or possibly replace. I did look at the footwells again based on y'alls photos, and found this (see 2nd image). Is that my circuit breaker? If it is, it's not clear how I would 'reset' it once it has tripped. Or if that's even the right one for the power window circuit. Is there more than one on the car?

-Thanks
-Chris

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The circuit breakers automatically reset, so there's nothing you can do to reset them.

That's two breakers tied together. Any chance you have power door locks too? One breaker for the locks and one for the windows.

 

[volksworld]

the short post is power in from the ammeter...the longer post is output to the accessory...the fusebox isn't in the circuit at all

 

[ptc075]

Ah, the circuit breakers reset themselves automatically. Starting to make more sense all the time. Again, is it likely there's more of them elsewhere? Because I feel like there should be more than just these two.

No power locks on this car, but there is also the rear power window in the tailgate. And the driver's seat is also powered. Could be either of those I reckon. Heck there's also a pair of cigarette lighters for the kids in the back seat, although they seem to be dead at the moment.

Based on what I'm piecing together, it sounds like the motor is seized, but it might not be a basket case. Take it out, give it a good whack and maybe clean the brushes if I can get to them. Anyone have a suggestion for how to power it to test it out of the car? I'm thinking a smaller battery like from a riding mower should work well, but open to other ideas in case that's too much amperage.

-Chris

 

[Big_John]

Ah, the circuit breakers reset themselves automatically. Starting to make more sense all the time. Again, is it likely there's more of them elsewhere? Because I feel like there should be more than just these two.

No power locks on this car, but there is also the rear power window in the tailgate. And the driver's seat is also powered. Could be either of those I reckon. Heck there's also a pair of cigarette lighters for the kids in the back seat, although they seem to be dead at the moment.

Based on what I'm piecing together, it sounds like the motor is seized, but it might not be a basket case. Take it out, give it a good whack and maybe clean the brushes if I can get to them. Anyone have a suggestion for how to power it to test it out of the car? I'm thinking a smaller battery like from a riding mower should work well, but open to other ideas in case that's too much amperage.

-Chris

This is how I did mine

Power Window Motor Repair

 

[ptc075]

Hey everyone,
So, I've had this back together for about a month now I reckon, and yes, it was totally worth it to have the windows go both up & down. But oh boy did I make a lot of mistakes along the way. When I do that, I try to make some notes for myself, so that I will be a bit less stupid next time. Figured I should upload them here as well, just in case it helps the next guy.

Thanks again everyone! Really appreciate the help!
-Chris