Mini Starter Machining

Engine, Transmission & Driveline

  1. mikedrini

    mikedrini Active Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Good Morning C Body Brethren,

    I finally got my 440 into Black Betty and mated to my 727 pushbutton, but the mini torque starter I have doesn't fit naturally as it did with the 383. I have only been able to find 1 or 2 different mentions of this via Google where some machining was required to the half moon area of either the block or the starter.

    I tried the original starter as well, but it has the same clearance problem as the mini starter does. Before I go machining my block or either starter, I wanted to see if anyone else had this issue and if so, how they remedied it.

    Thanks as always gentlemen.

    Mike
     
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    If neither starter will fit, the issue isn't the starter. Is that the same transmission as with the 383?
     
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  3. mikedrini

    mikedrini Active Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Yes, same transmission. Which is one of the 62-65(?) pushbutton trannys.
     
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    traintech55 Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    What I suggest is this, make a template of the back of your engine and see how this fits to the new one. Them make sure you do not have the offset dowels in the back of your transmission before you do any machining.
     
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  5. commando1

    commando1 Old Man With a Hat on the Porch FCBO Gold Member

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    Bought first mini starter from Mancini Racing (grossly overpriced in my opinion) and there was interference issues with the block because the mounting holes weren't to spec. aka shitty machining and zero QC.
    Replaced it with the cheapest mini starter I could find on eBay and it fit PERFECTLY!
    Wtf...
     
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  6. cbarge

    cbarge World Famous Barge in a Budget FCBO Gold Member

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    Go to any parts jobber,order an el cheapo starter for a 1992 Dakota with 5.2L magnum.
    Should fit right in there.
    You may have to cut the plastic between the battery cable and tiny wire that bolts to the starter.
    I have two cars with mini starters and no machining
     
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  7. mikedrini

    mikedrini Active Member FCBO Gold Member

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    I saw that a couple of guys did this in the posts I was able to find and be damned if those starters don't look exactly like the Summit mini torque starter I bought. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the starter you mentioned from a Dakota:

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    Here is the one I currently have from Summit:

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    Worth a gamble/return in your estimation? Thanks again all for the help.

    Mike
     
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    furious70 Well-Known Member

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    I buy OEM replacement units, not the fancy ones. I had to grind the half moon a bunch to fit my a500 even though a stock starter had fit in there fine. The other 2 cars I have minis on did not take the grinding - who knows. I didn't sweat it, just grind away on the starter case until it fits smoothly with no binding.
     
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  9. commando1

    commando1 Old Man With a Hat on the Porch FCBO Gold Member

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    I recommend anybody who buys a new foreign sourced mini-starter to hog out the mounting holes a few thou if it doesn't fit.
    Just leave no evidence if you still have to return it... :lol:
     
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  10. cbarge

    cbarge World Famous Barge in a Budget FCBO Gold Member

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    If you can return it if it does not fit you have nothing to lose,or as mentioned grind away on the starter.
    I rather not grind the block since that is more of a permanent butcher job vs starter.
     
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    And this is the piece you need to remove to allow a space between the positive post and the block.

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