NewYorker 1965 in Europe

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Hello everyone,

I am considering purchasing a 1965 Chrysler New Yorker and would greatly appreciate your expertise in evaluating its condition and originality. The vehicle is listed here: CHRYSLER New Yorker VI 6.8 V8 345cv Aut. - PCH Automotive

According to the seller, the car was originally sold new in Europe, which seems to be supported by a small data plate in French visible in the engine bay.

I would be grateful for any insights regarding the following:

- The authenticity of the vehicle's features and components

- Any specific areas prone to issues in this model that I should inspect

- Your overall assessment of the vehicle's condition based on the provided information


Thank you!

Tomas
 
As to the seats, I WOULD verify that they were re-done in "leather", as some sellers mistakenly perceive that vinyl "leatherette" is real leather rather than just look-alike vinyl.

The seat insert pattern does match the factory New Yorker vinyl seats, but it does look like they have been re-done (at some point in time) in the factory pattern. Just that the individual squares in the online brochure I found at www.eatondetroitspring.com (might need to input that address manually) has more dimension to the squares, as in light padding under each one (with recessed buttons), rather than the as-presented "flat" pattern.

Additionally, for some reason, the front seat backs look to also be "over-stuffed". Especially compared to the "shell bucket seat backs" of the 1966 models. A minor deal, though. @Big_John might verify that, though, compared to his '65 300L.

In its "glamour shots", the car looks very nice. Do see it in person, though.

You might also request the date codes on the tires, for good measure.

Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67
 
CBODY67 said:
As to the seats, I WOULD verify that they were re-done in "leather", as some sellers mistakenly perceive that vinyl "leatherette" is real leather rather than just look-alike vinyl.

The seat insert pattern does match the factory New Yorker vinyl seats, but it does look like they have been re-done (at some point in time) in the factory pattern. Just that the individual squares in the online brochure I found at www.eatondetroitspring.com (might need to input that address manually) has more dimension to the squares, as in light padding under each one (with recessed buttons), rather than the as-presented "flat" pattern.

Additionally, for some reason, the front seat backs look to also be "over-stuffed". Especially compared to the "shell bucket seat backs" of the 1966 models. A minor deal, though. @Big_John might verify that, though, compared to his '65 300L.

In its "glamour shots", the car looks very nice. Do see it in person, though.

You might also request the date codes on the tires, for good measure.

Just some thoughts and observations,
CBODY67
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Those seat backs look just like mine except for the ashtrays. All steel and painted to match.

Those seats look like the original vinyl to me. Perhaps something was lost in translation (the website being in French) or they just don't know the difference, figuring an upscale American car would have leather.

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Hey guys,
thanks a lot for all the replies — really appreciate it!
As for the originality and condition of the car, it looks pretty good to me so far. A friend of mine is planning to check it out in person in a few days, and in the meantime, I’ll try reaching out to the seller to see if they can share some more details — like the condition of the chassis, whether any original paperwork exists, service history, that kind of stuff.

Gotta say, I’m definitely more drawn to the lines of the early C-bodies compared to the fuselage, and that black paint with red interior combo is seriously eye-catching. Like @Big_John pointed out, the seats really do look very close to the originals.
 
This is a nice looking car but the devil is in the details. Looks like the trunk doesn't line up nicely on the left. Maybe something happened there? Check that all doors open and close nicely. Check all gaps on panels for consistency.

Other items to inspect would be stub frame, lower corners of rear windows, worn lower control arm bushings, power window operation, evidence of water leaks on carpet or in trunk. This is just a few but you still have to check everything else like fluids, leaks etc.

Go over everything the best you can. For 16k euro, everything should work and the car should absolutely be turn key. Will you be able to test drive it? Keep us posted!
 
@65Port Yeah, you're right — looking more closely at the rear photo, it does seem like the car might’ve been in a an accident. The trunk lid doesn’t line up quite right, and the rear bumper looks a bit bent. Doesn’t really look like something that would’ve come from the factory...

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tomas.vozar said:
@65Port Yeah, you're right — looking more closely at the rear photo, it does seem like the car might’ve been in a an accident. The trunk lid doesn’t line up quite right, and the rear bumper looks a bit bent. Doesn’t really look like something that would’ve come from the factory...

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It isn't the deck lid that's not aligning, it's the trim. I also think the bumper issues are just shadows.
 
Either way it doesn't look right. Something happened back there. Looks like it could have been tapped on the left side of the license plate too. Need an onsite visit to see.
 
Would be a 413 in 1965.

In SOME cases, fit and such were not up to modern standards, by observation. Is the trunk painted in spray-on bedliner material or just painted black, with no carpet?

A silent way to check for bodywork in the panels . . . go to an office supply store and look for a colored acrylic, transparent clipboard. Take it with you to "the viewing". Hold the c, clipboard vertically and at a 90 degree angle to the side of the car. Then walk down the side looking for deviations in the "colored line" the clipboard projects onto the side of the car. EASY to see imperfections that way! Will NOT indicate how deep the primer or body filler might be, though. To find those places, you'll have to gently do a "tap test", where you walk down the side of the car lightly tapping on the panels. When you hear a "dead" sound, that's the repaired area with filler on it.

IF a bumper has been re-chromed, that will be evident on the backside of the bumper. IF it's been straightened and re-chromed, there will generally be "pick marks" on the backside, too.

FWIW, in going from "N" to "R", it is normal to get a "slight clunk" from the rear axle. But much less of one going from "N" to "D". Just the way they are.

Like the tire age I mentioned, might also want to gently check the condition of the roof rail weatherstrips and those on the bottom of the doors, for general principles.

Your money, your dreams. It would be a very nice car to have, in what appears to be great condition. I would need to have factory a/c, though. Your decision.

Take care,
CBODY67
 
Nice car. That rear bumper is certainly bent just left of license plate. Some of the trim is askew in the rear, but there likely isn’t anything seriously wrong. I would just be sure to check that closely in person.
Travis..
 
Hello from Germany, I am very surprised and pleased to discover this car as an original export car. I have never seen anything so original before in Europe. My predecessors are right; of course there are a few things here and there that would need to be checked. But overall it seems to me as if it is an unrestored original. And if I am being precise, I can see signs of wear, scars, and scrapes here and there, even after 50 years at me. If the mileage is correct (which I can well imagine based on the overall condition and especially the interior) and the car is unrestored, then based on the photos I consider it to be a really well-preserved original, a survivor, and in a wonderful color combination with pretty hubcaps. Perhaps this car has an interesting story involving an American diplomat or something. It is also typical that, as a car exported to Europe, it does not have air conditioning. Based on the description and photos, I consider it a very interesting Mopar, and if the Chrysler is still drivable, it's a really fair price. And if the exhaust is broken or something else minor...it's just a 60-year-old used car. My recommendation!
 
Snotty said:
I realize that. I am asking is that a 413 in the picture? I don't see the "boss" on the right side by the intake, and it looks too narrow.
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RB motor. See the pad under the wires with yellow arrow.

So, probably a 413, but could be a 440.

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Any 60 year old car will have a few blemishes. Give it a look; unless the rear end is made of bondo, I wouldn't worry too much.
With it being black, if anyone did do panel repairs on it, they did a heck of a job, because black shows everything if if is not perfect
I wouldn't be ashamed to be seen in it.
 
Based on the import plate, this car was most likely sold new in Belgium (I know of other Mopars sold new in Belgium wih the very same kind of tag). Cars sold in France would have had the "Chrysler Simca" import tag. I have pictures of that car from 2023 when it was for sale in Belgium. Also, cars sold in France would have the mandotory brake fluid bowl, that this one doesn't have.

From time to time, we can see those cars pop up in sales. I know of at least one other 1965 New Yorker sold new in France, and 2 1966s as well, that survived.

Pic of the engine bay of the French 1965 that I know of.

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