Oil Pan Pickup

[1970FuryConv]

I have a 1969 440 block with 187 Pan, 5 inches tall. I believe the correct number based on the chart below is 2532264 for the oil pan pickup. There is one place, Hilton auto parts, which claims that 2532264 supersedes to 2899808. However, I believe 2899808 is HP, which would be a 6 inch oil pan.
Does anyone know what is the correct oil pan pickup to supersede from 2532264?
For a 5 inch pan, has anyone successfully used an aftermarket pickup? If so what is the manufacturer and part number?
My current oil pickup is bent at the threads, so the stretched threads won't let it screw all the way in. I really need to buy something else and I'd like to buy what's correct the first time. Thanks for your help! Ben. MyMopar - Mopar Forums & Information - Mopar Oil Pan Specifications
Sorry, chart didn't copy that well
Mopar Oil Pan Specifications
Stamp Part # Years Body Engine Baffles Notes
2268449 1961-1966 A
170 225

No Required for Early-A G/RG
2268446 1962-1963 A 170 No
2406688 1963-1966 A 170 225 No Also 2406689, Strainer 2206317
2780904 1967-1970 A 170 198 225 No Strainer 2780999
3462086 1971 A/B/E 198 225 No
369

4006368 1973-1976 A/F 225 No Strainer 2780999
2206463 1962-1965 B 225 No Interchange with A-100 van
2532284 1966-1969 B 225 No Strainer 2658696
2268452 1960-1961 DPC 225 No
2463594 1965-1973 C 225 No Large sump, doesn't fit A-body, Strainer 2463606
2468413 1965 C 225 No Fury
A/LA Pans
2206373 1962-1964 B 318 No
2268455 1959-1960 DPD A-Series No
2463408 1964 A 273 No
2463517 1965-1966 A/B/C A-100 273 318 No C-body=1966, Strainer 2468849
394 2806393 1966-1969 A/B/C 273 318 340 No Strainer 2468849
294 3418293 1970-1972 A/B/C/E 318 340 No Strainer 2468849
228 3614227 1973-1976 A/B/C/E 318 340 No Strainer 2468849
4006387 1976 A/B/F 318 No Strainer 2468849
3769166 1976-1978 C 318 No Strainer 3698832
438 3418437 1971-1973 C 360 No
3751875 1974-1976 C 360 No Strainer 3698832
4006391 1974-1980 A/B/E/F 360 No Strainer 2468849
B/RB Oil Pans
1737768 1958 DPD 350 361 No
1827400 1958 CHRY 361 No
2268459 1959-1964 361 383 413 No Strainer 1859947
2268459 1959-1966 413 Imperial No Strainer 1859947
893 2946706 1967-1969 A 383 440 Strainer 2946751
2402307 1962-1964 B Max Wedge Yes
2465195 1962-1965 B 361 383 No
2465195 1965 B 426 Street Wedge No
402 2532401 1966-1972 B/E 361 383 400 Some Strainer 2532403 or 2899807
402 2532401 1966-1969 B 440 Some Strainer 2532403 or 2899807
2780547 1966-1969 B 426 Yes Strainer 2780552 or 2899806
1970-1971 B/E 426 440 Yes
2951564 1971 B/E 426 Yes Strainer 2951569
2951564 1971-1972 B 440 Yes Strainer 2951569 or 3512251
971 3614970 1973-1978 B 400 440 Some 5-quart pan , Strainer 3614224
2463448 1965-1966 C 361 383 413 No Same as 187 and 699. Strainer 2463467
187 2532186 1967-1972 C 383 400 440 Some Same as 669. Strainer 2532264
315 2951314 1972 C 440 Yes High Performance, Police Strainer 2899808
3671856 1973 C 440 Yes High Performance, Police
699 3671697 1972-1973 C 400 440 Some Same as 187
933 3751934 1974-1978 C 400 440 Some Deep pan, ill-suited for A/B/E-bodies, Strainer 3577789
4529884 All B/RB Yes NEW, repop of 1970-71 Hemi pan

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[furyusvip]

In a stock depth pan, either of these two should work. The 440 source (first photo) has a 'curve' for getting around the pan baffles in some oil pans, but it is the same depth as the Mancini stock pickup (second photo) which is a straight tube

Oil Pickup Tube Curved - New-440 Source

https://www.manciniracing.com/196872rbengine.html

 

[1970FuryConv]

Hi Anthony
Thanks for the input!!!
My understanding is that the 6 quart pan including filter is 6 inches tall. The Mancini pickup is for the 6 quart pan. Also the 440 source pickup is for a baffled pan, which I thought was limited to 6 quart.
By contrast, my 187 pan is 5 inches tall. It is a 5 quart pan including filter. My problem is that I already have the 6 quart pan pickup and it's too long for the 5 quart pan. It doesn't allow the pan to fully seat on the pan rails. (plus its bent at the threads, recycle time)
Here is what I bought for a 5 quart pan. Melling 63-S3. By Melling's catalog info below, at center tube, it's about an inch shorter than what I have, which should be OK. Hope it's right!!!
Engine Oil Pump Pickup Tube-Stock MELLING 63-S3 | eBay

Parts Lookup - Melling

 

[furyusvip]

As long as it works, that's all that matters! Keep us posted. You are using a stock pressure/volume oil pump, right?

 

[1970FuryConv]

Yes. Stock Oil Pump, Melling M63.
Pickup: We'll see if it works soon. Guarantee delivery by 3/6

 

[ayilar]

Yes. Stock Oil Pump, Melling M63.
Pickup: We'll see if it works soon.

Any update on the oil pump? I am thinking of getting the Melling M63 from Mancini as well.

 

[1970FuryConv]

Any update on the oil pump? I am thinking of getting the Melling M63 from Mancini as well.

I built the engine, but it is not installed in car yet. Oil pump is installed, but unused. It fit fine.
Does that answer your question or are you asking about pickup too?

Pickup was more complicated, because it was both too long and too high when mounted. I believe this is only true if you have 5-quart pan. I have 187, which is 5-quart. If you have 6 quart, pickup should work well with pan.

· Used 12 point 5/8 short socket, 12 inch extension, ½ ratchet and breaker bar. Repeated following process several times: spray cutting lube on 3/8 pipe thread tap. Turn in pickup mount in block. Sometimes I went half a turn, sometimes I went a full turn, depending upon where the oil pan pickup screen was last time, whether it was sticking up vertical or horizontal as it should be. I reversed directions every quarter turn, to make sure that the tap didn’t hang up in the mount. Remove tap, wipe clean. Spray CRC brake clean in mount hole to wash down threads. Use air gun and compressed air to blow out dirt and brake cleaner. Test fit oil pan pickup. If I was able to turn it to the point that the screen side was horizontal, I then test fit the pan with the new gasket. I repeated this process for I’m guessing about 3 whole turns overall.

· When I finally got the oil pan to rest solid on top of the oil pan gasket, no longer hitting the top of the pickup, I removed the pan and gasket. I put Permatex red thread locker 27100 on the threads of the pickup and installed, using a level to make sure that the bottom of the block and the bottom of the pickup, horizontal. I then wiped off the oil pan rails, and installed the oil pan and gasket, again with Permatex red thread locker on all bolt threads. I torqued all at 200 – 200 inch-pounds, ½ short socket, 12 inch extension, 3/8 torque wrench. I used 20 trans pan mounting bolts, because the threads were slightly longer and the washers were much larger. I am hoping for leak free operation.

Engine now

 

[3175375]

I built the engine, but it is not installed in car yet. Oil pump is installed, but unused. It fit fine.
Does that answer your question or are you asking about pickup too?

Pickup was more complicated, because it was both too long and too high when mounted. I believe this is only true if you have 5-quart pan. I have 187, which is 5-quart. If you have 6 quart, pickup should work well with pan.

· Used 12 point 5/8 short socket, 12 inch extension, ½ ratchet and breaker bar. Repeated following process several times: spray cutting lube on 3/8 pipe thread tap. Turn in pickup mount in block. Sometimes I went half a turn, sometimes I went a full turn, depending upon where the oil pan pickup screen was last time, whether it was sticking up vertical or horizontal as it should be. I reversed directions every quarter turn, to make sure that the tap didn’t hang up in the mount. Remove tap, wipe clean. Spray CRC brake clean in mount hole to wash down threads. Use air gun and compressed air to blow out dirt and brake cleaner. Test fit oil pan pickup. If I was able to turn it to the point that the screen side was horizontal, I then test fit the pan with the new gasket. I repeated this process for I’m guessing about 3 whole turns overall.

· When I finally got the oil pan to rest solid on top of the oil pan gasket, no longer hitting the top of the pickup, I removed the pan and gasket. I put Permatex red thread locker 27100 on the threads of the pickup and installed, using a level to make sure that the bottom of the block and the bottom of the pickup, horizontal. I then wiped off the oil pan rails, and installed the oil pan and gasket, again with Permatex red thread locker on all bolt threads. I torqued all at 200 – 200 inch-pounds, ½ short socket, 12 inch extension, 3/8 torque wrench. I used 20 trans pan mounting bolts, because the threads were slightly longer and the washers were much larger. I am hoping for leak free operation.

Engine now
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Good work!

 

[ayilar]

Thank you! Your first paragraph covers it for me as I’m not changing the oil pickup. For anyone who does, Though, your other details will be most helpful.