The Automotive World is Changing Rapidly and Tesla Has Led the Way - Ford is Copying

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  1. BLUPORT

    BLUPORT Carpe Diem Cras FCBO Gold Member

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    Steering Wheel Controls. There's nothing to turn "off" but I'd be willing to bet the display tones itself down while driving.
     
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    What would Lee Iacocca say?
     
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    BLUPORT Carpe Diem Cras FCBO Gold Member

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    I hope you took those splitter covers off already... :poke:

    Personally, if I were going to spend that kind of dough on a new car, I'd just opt for a 775hp Mustang.

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    BLUPORT Carpe Diem Cras FCBO Gold Member

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    The guy who brought us the Pinto, Lebaron, and K-Cars...
     
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    1978 NYB Warfighter FCBO Gold Member

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    That picture was taken the day I bought the car at the dealer.....
     
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    How is the range affected by temperature? I know all my battery powered tools hate the cold. And if they are hot ro touch, or in high temperatures they don't take a good charge.
    They seem to still be giving ranges and usage cycles based on lab tests more than reality
     
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    1978 NYB Warfighter FCBO Gold Member

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    I am seeing charging stations starting to pop up all over the place in the mid-Atlantic region. They even have them on Aberdeen Proving Ground for government vehicles.
     
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    Sure hope so. This stupid display screen on my 2014 work truck is so bad I have to cover it at night. They angled it perfectly to reflect back into the rear view mirror. I’ve tried everything to disable it but I just end up with the truck yelling at me in french...

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  9. Davea Lux

    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    They will just sell you a permit to access the grid, one you reach some artificial preset limit, they will flip a switch and cut you off the grid. To bad if you are out in a snow storm etc.

    Dave
     
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    300rag Waiting out the storm FCBO Gold Member

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    I've got a button on both of mine. It still leaves a slight glow, but it's mostly off...

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    I want to know how the range is effected with age/time. I'm guessing it diminishes at a fairly steady rate like all other battery powered things. I saw a short new story a few weeks ago about some guy finding out that his Tesla battery will cost $33,000 to replace. So basically the car is trash at the end of the battery's life cycle, which I'm guessing will be 10 years.
     
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    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    It does not really help to turn it off, GPS is still active and big brother can still track everywhere you go. Left wing socialist/communist types have long hated the automobile because it gave people freedom of movement outside of their control. Easy to track people on mass transit. So having failed to get everyone to take mass transit, the next step was to install spy tech on all new vehicles.

    Dave
     
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    Davea Lux Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    Not a major concern since the car will likely burn down first and incinerate the driver.

    Dave
     
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    The point was that the screen could be dimmed to be less distracting at night.
     
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    One of the best RUSH songs and greatest songs ever!!! Thanks, just got done listening to it in the shop as I'm working on the 300.
     
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    saforwardlook Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    What is driving all this is climate change. The goal is renewable energy such as solar, wind, nuclear maybe, ocean waves, etc................... Anything that uses combustion as a power source generates CO2 and will be phased out in time. CO2 stays in the atmosphere for 100 years before it breaks down into carbon and oxygen again. So all the fossil fuels we have been burning over the last century have been converted to CO2, generating a mind boggling huge blanket of CO2 in the atmosphere that acts as an insulator, retaining heat at ground level and therefore warming the planet and it won't go away soon. It isn't really rocket science, no pun intended.

    So with change, a lot of folks get concerned, but there are advantages with EVs that I will appreciate, such as elimination of tune ups, oil changes, oil leaks and so on. Everyone that owns a Tesla seems to love them, especially the model S and their acceleration from a stop is mind boggling unless you own a Hellcat or similar car. Mustang sales of the current car do not make Ford much money and the resale value of pony cars is poor, so Ford apparently decided to take them to a new level and used the awesome acceleration of their new E model to justify its name because these new EVs will be really fast off the line and therefore sporty. The name recognition of the Mustang will help drive sales. So it all boils down to Ford making more money and corporations love doing that.

    Battery recycling is a developing industry and the technology will continue to improve. Cold weather driving and range are more difficult challenges. One thing that is helpful though is that electric a/c systems will be like the room units in your house, that never lose their charge because they are hermetically sealed and can't leak unless there is a forcible damage to the unit. That is a nice advantage over todays a/c systems in our gasoline cars. And since battery systems require a cooling system, there is spent heat available to help warm the passenger compartment in addition to instant electric heat in cold weather driving.

    There are few in the collector car world as well-known as Jay Leno and he owns a Tesla Model S and seems to love it. So maybe hearing his viewpoints might be useful. He didn't get where he is in this world by being a dummy:

    Jay Leno: The ignition key will be gone in 20 years and cars will drive themselves







    I am not too worried about the change coming and will look forward to it. But I hope EVs will multiply fast so government won't push so hard to get old vehicles off the road because we will start to minimize CO2 emissions rapidly and therefore the huge push to eliminate combustion engine vehicles won't be so severe. In California, cars older than 1976 do not have to go through smog check because the smog emission standards of new cars were pushed by their stringent standards very hard, and the EPA followed their lead usually about 4years later. Because the improvements in smog have been so effective so quickly in this state, emissions modeling showed that having really old cars like ours on our forum going through smog check would not make any real difference in smog, so they were given a pass. Thus we can drive them unabated today. Thus, I think there can be a silver lining in all of this for us rather than pushing our cars off the road.

    I am not a fan, though, of autonomous vehicles, and I still doubt their ability to handle every strange, unpredictable event that vehicles encounter for some time. What threatens us is that the argument will likely come that allowing drivers to control their cars will ultimately be less safe than having all cars autonomous. That could be a real problem. I would at least like to have some control of my fate and not have electronics capabilities decide it. Making all cars on the road autonomous would kill our vehicles and they would all end up in museums.
     
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    I wonder if anyone has calculated the amount of "green house gasses" that are emitted by a burning Tesla battery.

    Dave
     
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    I was reading the low tech blog the other day. They featured a 1908 electric car that got the same range as today’s electric vehicles. We have better battery tech but vehicle weight is up, thus no real range improvements.

    I refer to EVs as coal powered cars. The average person never thinks about what happened to get that electricity generated for their cars and other stuff. EVs are powered by whatever poco cooked to make steam and spin the giant alternator.
     
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    Shhhhhhh! Your not supposed to notice that grid will collapse if everyone converts to EV. Ignore the snake oil and the man behind the curtain.

    Dave
     
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    And the legendary GT40 lest you forget...

    Oh yeah and if you remember the K Car and mini van saved Chrysler Corporations bacon. So give the man his props... not shit. Just sayin'
     
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