Rant ON... National Anthem...

[commando1]

Nowhere can I find has color or Race been mentioned. NOwhere.
Another case of where the profession victim has pulled the race card out of thin air.
WHY is it I bemoan the American culture being wiped out by cultures that come in and loot the vault. The vault that was built by the American culture. No. Sorry. Been robbed long enough. Finally represented by an American that knows a shithole when he sees one. Every person regardless of status knows and calls Haiti a shithole. I feel horrible for Haitians who are enslaved in eternal poverty in that shithole.
BTW.... Bumfuck County is called a shithole also. By both that lve here. It's our term of endearment to our little Utopia.

 

[commando1]

Well, now that the Race card was thrown onto the table without merit (as always), it's now "In before the lock".

 

[68Nwprt]

Without merit? Taken from the idiot in chief's playbook, I see. If you support a racist and act like a racist... well do I have to say it. Because bigoted people have done something racist, stupid and hateful, for the past hundred of years or more in no way make it right. Racism is not right in any context. I think you put yourself in the cross hairs by thinking that you could find support with your hateful way of thinking. And that may be true. The question is can a truly hateful person live with himself no matter how many supporters they have?

Every person regardless of status knows and calls Haiti a shithole.

Every person or every racist?

Oh wait!! And let's talk about Indian doctors working for 1/2 the salary.

So lets just put the 1.31 billion people from India in one nice neat little stereotypical group. They will be easier to keep track of this way. "Nowhere can I find has color or race been mentioned. NO where".

hat's a drop in the bucket compared to the white color jobs immigrants are stealing.
Mostly Computer and ENGINEERING jobs. Without need to go into lengthy details...

 

[Jeff]

Yeah... he's pissing off a lot of people here and abroad... but, hey, it's Donnie... He probably defines a "shithole" as anyplace the car next to him isn't fully prepared for lunch.

I believe he is a racist, but even if you disagree, his dumbass comments are nothing to joke about, unless you think an isolated and diminished country is a good thing. China, Russia, and others are working very hard to increase their influence in the world. Trump is a gold mine for them. Trump is the best investment that Putin ever made.

 

[commando1]

Once again, another discussion is ended abruptly.

 

[Rwc]

About 4 years ago I was involved with a group that was planning to build a very lavish resort in Haiti. All self contained and large. Stores, theaters and any kind of spa you can imagine. It involved enough buildings that it was over 14,000 windows. It wasn't a big evil corporation doing it. The plan was to put it in a remote area away from the population, they were not going g to get much for jobs there either. They were too much uneductaed, unclean and wouldn't adapt to that style of living. It fell through because the politicians that were privately investing in this got interrupted by a natural disaster that turned the spotlight on Haiti and it would have been tough to explain. No names, but mostly New York Democrats.
Thankfully, the left only sees people like Trump as an opportunist and a racist.
As a side note, this group used. To marvel at the Haitians being willing to mix dirt I to their food to make it more filling.

 

[polara71]

Not exactly sure what your asking, but I think weak minded people, and especially racist, will typically belittle a person of color, rather than give them credit for their accomplishments. As a white supremacist will always believe they are superior to a person of color regardless of their accomplishments.

I don' t see a question either. I see a statement. A statement in response to yours. Stan has posted a few words that speaks volumes of the way millions of Americans feel but are afraid to say it . He's right on.....thank you Stan

 

[commando1]

I don' t see a question either. I see a statement. A statement in response to yours. Stan has posted a few words that speaks volumes of the way millions of Americans feel but are afraid to say it . He's right on.....thank you Stan

And your support in speaking up against the racial hate toward working class Middle America is genuinely appreciated. Thank you.
We're a popular and easy target.
Trump may be the unruffled bull in an international china shop but he stepped forward and put his head on the chopping block as the last hurrah against Socialism. I believe Trump will end up losing everything he has. I'm proud of the big lug.

 

[Fratzog]

Yet i get thrown out of Canada after my 3rd trip to Brampton for meetings.

The next time our Border Services gives you a hard time claim refugee status. The will put you up in a hotel with free health care.

 

[Fratzog]

I'm so sick of all you ******* racist assholes. What we need to do is, make America great again and get rid of you, starting with the orange idiot.

Resorting to personal attacks on members here is stepping over the line. Sorry that your delicate snowflake sensibilities were damaged. Do you have a counter argument? If not shut the f#*# up.

 

[sixpkrt]

I'm so sick of all you ******* racist assholes.

Please pay special attention to 0:41.
That's all I'm gonna say.

 

[commando1]

The path to Trump 2020 is paved with Democrats' racist accusations

 

[Carmine]

I actually hope this doesn't get locked because I find people who immediately go to the "racist ******* *******" argument fascinating. It's like observing a spotted owl or something, except they are anything but endangered. They're actually a majority (or at least 49% I suppose), but they are rare among anyone I know.... now I am afraid to write much more because I'm afraid the thread will get locked before I can really get into meat & potatoes.

 

[commando1]

I actually hope this doesn't get locked because... people who immediately go to the "racist ******* *******" argument

That's how you surpress free speech. Call it racist and everybody backs down.
Joey gets upset.
We lose because of the O.J. defense becomes everyone's rallying cry after seeing how easy it is to disrupt the truth from being told.
I have never used the race card.
I have friends and associates from all walks of life.

AND HERE'S MY STORY!
I worked most of life along side P.C. (that was his real name). We were always great buddies.
When he retired, I said to PC that I was going to miss him.
PC said to me that he was going to miss me the most because I, more than any guy there, never looked at him and made him "feel like a nigger" His words.
Yah. I was white. He was black. So what.

 

[68Nwprt]

Resorting to personal attacks on members here is stepping over the line. Sorry that your delicate snowflake sensibilities were damaged. Do you have a counter argument? If not shut the f#*# up.

Oh boo ******* hoo. I think Stan can take care of himself. So let me get this straight, A personal attack on one of your little forum buddies is taboo, but an attack on a entire race of people is OK. The argument is that if you condone and support this racist behavior, you must be a racist. Racism in America didn't just appear from nowhere. It was created by the white man. They started with the American Indian, and then to the black man in the south. As I stated it was Stan's
remarks, I have quoted towards Immigrants and Indians that put him in the cross hairs.

 

[Carmine]

I'll continue...

@68Nwprt

I wonder if those people who throw down the "RFA" argument actually spend much time in real conversations with people of other races, who are not in a lower socioeconomic station.

(In other words, to dumb this down, do you ever have meaningful conversations with brown people?)

Or do your ideas about "them" come from what has been portrayed in the media for I don't know... 60-70 years?

This is not to say that real, live RFA's don't exist. They certainly do. But so a lot of other mental derangements yet we don't go around labeling people "hoarders" or something else to try and shut them down.

If I introduced you to a black Trump supporter, would you put a label on them? That's not a rhetorical question, please answer it.

 

[Carmine]

AND HERE'S MY STORY!
I worked most of life along side P.C. (that was his real name). We were always great buddies.
When he retired, I said to PC that I was going to miss him.
PC said to me that he was going to miss me the most because I, more than any guy there, never looked at him and made him "feel like a nigger" His words.
Yah. I was white. He was black. So what.

I was the youngest guy at Viper when I signed up. The old guys acted like douches (lol, now I'm that guy) but anyway it forced Eugene and myself into a decades long friendship. (he was the 2nd youngest)

A very intelligent person, raised by his baptist-pastor grandfather who could quote scripture and then converted to Muslim. He advanced past all the "cooning" black pop-culture. I can't say he's a huge Trump guy, but that's largely because he doesn't wait around for any politican-as-savior (nor do I).

Is his individual veiwpoint irrelevant? Are people individuals or groups?

 

[68Nwprt]

I'll continue...

I wonder if those people who throw down the "RFA" argument actually spend much time in real conversations with people of other races, who are not in a lower socioeconomic station.

(In other words, to dumb this down, do you ever have meaningful conversations with brown people?)

Or do your ideas about "them" come from what has been portrayed in the media for I don't know... 60-70 years?

This is not to say that real, live RFA's don't exist. They certainly do. But so a lot of other mental derangements but we don't go around labeling people "hoarders" or something else to try and shut them down.

If I introduced you to a black Trump supporter, would you put a label on them? That's not a rhetorical question, please answer it.

Fair question. I would love to hear what they have to say. And yes I have spent time with people of color. Most of my life. I currently work for a company with over 450 employees in the U.S. and over 400 in the Dominican Republic. On a daily basis I interact with people of all colors and from many countries and many regions of the world. I make it a point to ask each one of them where they are from and to try to get to know them and learn as much about there culture as I can. Our company has grown from sixty employees when I started eleven years ago to over Eight hundred presently. Our goal is to have at least one account in every country in the world. We have global success do to having a hard working diversified team. I'm proud to have the opportunity to be part a winning team with people of all colors, and religious beliefs. I am in no way insecure about a person of color, American or immigrant taking my job or my children or grand children's jobs. I was taught to be the best you can be at your choice of occupation. We have had steady job growth in America for the last 80 or so months with the exception of one month and the unemployment rate is low. So where is the problem with immigrants staying. I've heard stories of Chinese companies considering starting operations in the U.S but are afraid there will not be a labor force large enough to accommodate.

 

[Fratzog]

Racism in America didn't just appear from nowhere. It was created by the white man. They started with the American Indian, and then to the black man in the south.

There you go. Was that so hard? Not much of an argument but at least stating your position. You are right that racism in NA didn't appear from nowhere. It likely started 15000 years ago as the various Asian tribes that migrated into NA and started to stake their territory. They were slaughtering each other until Europeans showed up and took over. While not defending the treatment of of natives but lets not treat them as innocents.
89. The Iroquois Wars
You appear to unable to distinguish between acknowledging verified differences between races and racial bigotry as demonstrated by for example the KKK. Here is a nice concise primer on the issues.

 

[Carmine]

You still haven't answered my question.

However...

Fair question. I would love to hear what they have to say. And yes I have spent time with people of color. Most of my life. I currently work for a company with over 450 employees in the U.S. and over 400 in the Dominican Republic. On a daily basis I interact with people of all colors and from many countries and many regions of the world. I make it a point to ask each one of them where they are from and to try to get to know them and learn as much about there culture as I can. Our company has grown from sixty employees when I started eleven years ago to over Eight hundred presently. Our goal is to have at least one account in every country in the world. We have global success do to having a hard working diversified team. I'm proud to have the opportunity to be part a winning team with people of all colors, and religious beliefs.

I'm sorry but I swear to God that sounds like a cut/paste from a corporate website. It just needs the word "synergy".

Talking to someone on the phone and showing an interest in their culture is not knowing someone. That's called small talk. Do you have a black friend who tells you they need to get their mother into a new house because hers just got shot up by the local drug dealer? That it needs to be far away from all the n_____r's ruining the area? Do you have the depth of understanding to realize many minority people have day-to-day problems which line up with "ours" and whitey isn't even on their radar?

Now that I think about it... Trump called the ghettos "hellholes" during the campaign. Do you know that many of them feel that PC people are being condescending when they try and act like there isn't an issue?

That's the nuanced understanding you get from working side-by-side for years, not calling strangers and asking how they celebrated the 4th day of Kwanza.

*edit: Look, I'll admit I'm being a little hard on you, but then again you kicked that off by calling everyone a bunch of RFA's. I simply think you have a surface level understanding of other cultures, because if you had a deeper understanding you'd realize there isn't a thing I've said here that I couldn't say to a black, Mexican or Indian friend. And yes, I said "black". Brothers laugh at white people who are afraid to say that.