Factory plug n play kit now avail for Gen III HEMIS

[commando1]

FINALLY! No playing stupid games with hacked aftermarket stuff.
Best news I've heard yet.
Now I want to do it.
Anybidy got a 6.4 for sale?

That thing got a Hemi? Mopar engine kits make it easier to say yes

Thanks to a new kit from Mopar, classic car owners will have an easier time dropping Hemis into their muscle cars. The kit works with Mopar's 345 and 392 Hemi engines (5.7 and 6.4 liters respectively) and with cars built before 1975.

The kit will run $1,795 and has everything needed to get one of the above engines running. The parts include a power distribution system, engine computer, engine and chassis wiring harnesses, O2 and intake air temperature sensors, ground wiring and a gas pedal. The kit is also designed to work with a manual transmission, but Mopar says a transmission such as the Torqueflite 727 and 904 can be made to work with the system. As for examples of the kit in action, take a look at the Jeep CJ66 and Dodge Challenger Shakedown that Mopar revealed this week at the SEMA show.

Mopar also offers a few other parts to help complete the project, including various oil pans to clear subframes, a set of headers, and accessory drives for power steering and air conditioning. All of these parts are extra cost though. You'll also need an engine, and the 345 starts at $6,070, and the 392 runs $9,335. However, if you happen to already have one from 2014 or newer, that will work, too.

Muscle car fans are getting more choices for their engine conversions. ChevroletPerformance already sells crate engines with "Connect and Cruise" kits to get its engines working in classic cars. The General also offers it with more engines. However, for people who want to keep a Mopar engine in their classic Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth, or Jeep, this is a cool new option.

 

[GJS]

Neato. I reckon by the time I can afford a solid C-body I'll have paid off my scat pack.... hmm.. I like the sounds of that.. 2015 Challenger "donor car"

 

[MarPar]

saw that on FBBO yesterday...my Dart is screaming for a 6.4...and new rims

 

[The Horvaths]

Anybidy got a 6.4 for sale?

I know a guy who does. It sure would make a certain formal I know rock...

 

['69FuryIIIConvertible]

I need this... My buddy has a 5.7 with 150kms in his garage.........Hemi powered 4 door fury?

 

[70bigblockdodge]

A 5.7 with a R545 trans would make a killer drive train for a C body. 20+ mpg, easy drive, and one less POS 1/2 ton pu on the road.

 

[commando1]

A 5.7 with a R545 trans would make a killer drive train for a C body. 20+ mpg, easy drive, and one less POS 1/2 ton pu on the road.

Is it the small block Torqueflite that bolts right up to a Gen III Hemi?
That makes things even more simple.

 

[73Coupe]

1700 bucks seems like a lot for wiring harness, computer, sensors, and gas pedal. Maybe it's the convenience factor that make this expensive?

Are these new Hemi's the standard V8 in all the Dodge trucks, challenger, charger, 300, and Durango? Don't know much about this new shat....

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Is it the small block Torqueflite that bolts right up to a Gen III Hemi?
That makes things even more simple.

Yes with a adapter ring for torque converter hub in the back of the crank I think. The R545 trans already lives behind Hemi and it gives a nice overdrive and electronic control. Same as a 18 is better than a 13 which is better than a 9. I would also not rule out a 5/6 speed manual which it says the controller works with.
Now I just need a 2 door formal NYB with leather and no green or red interior and no engine or trans and within 300 miles of Pittsburgh PA.

 

[The Horvaths]

Are these new Hemi's the standard V8 in all the Dodge trucks, challenger, charger, 300, and Durango? Don't know much about this new shat

Pretty much. There also was the "Power Tech" made until 2013.

 

[superfragl]

Is it the small block Torqueflite that bolts right up to a Gen III Hemi?

Why do you think I was looking for a small block 727? ))))

 

[commando1]

Why do you think I was looking for a small block 727? ))))

Question answered then. Thank you. lol

 

[commando1]

Now I just need a 2 door formal NYB with leather and no green or red interior and no engine or trans and within 300 miles of Pittsburgh PA.

Got it.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Got it.

Damn shame is the price will still be $2500

 

[Mr C]

So this kit only works for 2014 and newer? What about the older ones (03-13)?

 

[70bigblockdodge]

So this kit only works for 2014 and newer? What about the older ones (03-13)?

I believe it designed for 2014 and up crate engines but will work with earlier engines if that is what you have. It would be cool to have a computer that would work with both the active manifold and the vvt, especially if you put it in a big car with tall gears. I think they have eliminated the speed sensor circuits from the antilock brake sensors which everyone has had so much trouble working around.

 

[commando1]

think they have eliminated the speed sensor circuits from the antilock brake sensors which everyone has had so much trouble working around.

Someone has been doing some serious research. . .

 

[superfragl]

I think they have eliminated the speed sensor circuits from the antilock brake sensors which everyone has had so much trouble working around.

Are you talking about issues with using factory wiring / computer? Do you have more info on this?

 

[Mr C]

I believe it designed for 2014 and up crate engines but will work with earlier engines if that is what you have. It would be cool to have a computer that would work with both the active manifold and the vvt, especially if you put it in a big car with tall gears. I think they have eliminated the speed sensor circuits from the antilock brake sensors which everyone has had so much trouble working around.

I'd need to know if it works well for scrap yard swaps before I spout on about how great this is for the hobby. I re-read this and it's not clear to me about if it supports the modern transmissions...lots of talk about 727s, but what about supporting a hobbyist doing a wrecker swap (engine trans as a unit.) ?
If this does not support a hobbyist cheap wrecker engine swap, I think Mopar is really missing out...all they need to do is provide equivalent support that the bowtie hobbyist community has enjoyed for years...not hard.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

According to Flipboard and car scoops it is for 2014 up crate engines. So I guess it is not such a great help. The more I read the less likely it is that it will support a modern auto trans.

Are you talking about issues with using factory wiring / computer? Do you have more info on this?

Yes problems with using a factory computer is they don't play well when missing a part including the cluster, cat, factory electronic trans. The speedo/transmission output speed, for shift points, in a modern Chrysler product works off the abs/traction control wheel sensors also depends on drive line the ECU came from. If you get the engine and ECU/PCM out of a 5.7 awd 300 and the R545/645 trans from a 2wd pu, this is not going to jive because the ecu is looking for awd 4 wheel sensors because it needs to know if fronts or rears are slipping, it applies brake to the wheel or wheels that are slipping to make the others move the car. Another thing that Chrysler did that the aftermarket does not deal with is the odd toothed tone rings( not evenly spaced) and of course the aftermarket does not work active manifold or the VVT on the 11 up engines. A company called Hotwire has a workaround for the wheel sensors and speedo, I have heard nothing about getting the manifold and VVT to work.