Fury Pursuit
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Thanks! That's the 440 HP Plymouth air cleaner for 69. And Ricks original 69 440HP Sport Fury has the same unsilenced HP air cleaner.
1969 L Code 440HP Sport Fury
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You sir are the type of fellow that falls into a bucket of **** and comes up with a ham sandwich arent you?
YOU are officially at the top of the YOU SUCK list. There are a lot of guys on said list but you just bumped somebody out of the top five......
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Fury Pursuit
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LAUGHING OUT LOUD!!!
Dave, it's not easy to find a ham sandwich in a bucket of ****.
I've had a lot of support and help from friends, wife and family along the way. One man can't do this alone!
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Just to clarify, many radiators were used on 69 Furys, mine has a 28" It is a unique part number used on 383/440 cars with the trailer tow package. Trailer tow package gave you extra cooling features, especially on AC cars.
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Very good point Rick.
This car is a non-A/C HP 440 car, so accordingly it has the smaller radiator. Just like the 6BBL GT cars. Counter intuitive, but true.
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Wollfen
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Yah, the 69 Fury II, I have here with numbers matching 440HP has an unsilenced aircleaner too.
I have a B7 blue 1969 Polara 500 convertible with a black interior and black top with the 440HP engine w/o a/c and it has the dual snorkel air cleaner. So did Plymouth and Dodge have different air cleaners, or is mine a replacement for the original then? Mine has significant rust, and I am sure doesn't look like Trev's does when we get to see it in total!
Fury Pursuit
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Hey Steve,... I just had a conversation with a guy that knows the answer.
Your dual snorkel is correct for your car. Why? All California built and sold cars had dual snorkel for emissions and noise, ..yes noise reduction!
That being said he's a B-body guru, and admittedly knows little about C-bodies.
Nice car man....show us a photo of the hood emblem!
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My Canadian built 69 Polara 500 L code has the dual snorkel. I thought maybe it was a C body thing but guess not if others have the unsilenced. Pretty certain it's original to the car. Ill try and grab a pic tomorrow.
A lot of 1969 440 HP cars here
Maybe the unsilenced air cleaner is more a plymouth thing , can,t remember i,ve seen a polara 440 with a unsilenced one .
You also see them on the 383 4bbl VIP fury,s.
I will do some checking. In the meantime, has anybody tracked engine callouts by the assembly plant?
So, the "A" and "B" engine cars with a/c got different 18½ x 2½ x 7 blade fans? What was different? One with a clutch and one not?
Hey Steve,... I just had a conversation with a guy that knows the answer.
Your dual snorkel is correct for your car. Why? All California built and sold cars had dual snorkel for emissions and noise, ..yes noise reduction!
That being said he's a B-body guru, and admittedly knows little about C-bodies.
Nice car man....show us a photo of the hood emblem!
I could agree with your input from the B body guy Trev, but my car came from back East, which is why it has rust. The car is very unmolested so I am thinking it might be the original air cleaner even if it wasn't sold in California. I will have to go out and look again, but I don't think it has a hood emblem, but if it does, I will post a photo. Thanks!
Fury Pursuit
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This is the part of the MoPar restoration field/hobby which is really interesting to me.
Most of what is "known" about A,B, & E bodies is already "known or discovered".
The "MoPar Community" knows very little about the C-Body segment of our field or hobby.
It's up to all of us here to share information on or about original cars that we have so the answers can be known and discovered. A group effort!
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Steve, I was inclined to think it was a Dodge VS Plymouth designation.
Dodge got the Dual Snorkel and Plymouth had the HP Unsilenced.
Every 1969 Plymouth HP C body I have seen has had the HP Unslienced air cleaner. All the Dodges have had the Dual Snorkel.
My E/B body Guru says ALL cars built in or shipped to California in 1969 regardless of make should have had a Dual Snorkel...and all others Plymouth and Dodge would have an unslienced,....so I don't know.
It could be specific to production plants?
And then there is the Plymouth hood emblem with engine I.D.? Was that model specific or engine specific, or assembly plant specific???
Let's find out.....................
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Sorry, I've been swamped lately but I can tell you that my car was sold in Blythe CA. It was a Sold Car so I assume a sales bank car which would indicate that the ship to location would have been known at the time of production.
The build sheet indicates it was built to US specs. Does anyone know if cars intended to ship to CA would have built to CA specs on the build sheet? The reason I ask is that my car also has the unsilenced air cleaner. To further confuse the issue, both the 69 Dodge and 69 Plymouth sales brochures indicates that the 383 Magnum/Super Commando should have unsilenced but the 440 Magnum/Super Commando should have the Dual Snorkel.
Now, having said all that, I'm positive I have Chrysler documentation that my car, or maybe Sport Fury's in general did come with the Unsilenced air cleaner. I'm still trying to find the documentation, unfortunately I don't have my files stored on the computer in as organized manner as I'd like. As soon as I find it, I'll post it.
BTW, my car was built at the Belvidere plant. Another possible correlation would be the Engine plants. Mound Road or Trenton. Does anyone know if 440 HP's were only built at one engine plant or could it be that there was a difference depending on which plant the engine came from?
The build sheet indicates it was built to US specs. Does anyone know if cars intended to ship to CA would have built to CA specs on the build sheet? The reason I ask is that my car also has the unsilenced air cleaner. To further confuse the issue, both the 69 Dodge and 69 Plymouth sales brochures indicates that the 383 Magnum/Super Commando should have unsilenced but the 440 Magnum/Super Commando should have the Dual Snorkel.
Now, having said all that, I'm positive I have Chrysler documentation that my car, or maybe Sport Fury's in general did come with the Unsilenced air cleaner. I'm still trying to find the documentation, unfortunately I don't have my files stored on the computer in as organized manner as I'd like. As soon as I find it, I'll post it.
BTW, my car was built at the Belvidere plant. Another possible correlation would be the Engine plants. Mound Road or Trenton. Does anyone know if 440 HP's were only built at one engine plant or could it be that there was a difference depending on which plant the engine came from?
Hi Kmccabe56,
I'm not sure if the A and B engines had different part numbers for the fan, my only statement was that there were multiple configurations of coolant components on C Bodies as well as other parts dependent on the options of the car. ie several different radiators, fans, ect.
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