azblackhemi
Old Man with a Hat
Not quite sure how it wound up here but...
NOT MINE 70 300 Hurst @ Copart?
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Looks like they do private sales too. It's listed as an "off site sale".
@azblackhemi -- thank you for posting CM23U0C207568 . Here are the photos for records. @Trace 300 Hurst
It actually looks better than most of these that come up for sale these days. This will be interesting to watch.
Yes, it will be interesting to watch. It looks complete and unmolested, pretty much a survivor.
This is the "not mine" section. These are ads that members here find on other sale sites. You'll have to check the link they post and ask the actual owner.
Quite the difference between the bid price and the starting bid price.
3550.00 compared to 24,000.00.
3550.00 compared to 24,000.00.
fury fan
Senior Member
Actually, scratch that, I misinterpreted. The $24000 is a buy-it-now.
Which is sorta good - I wasn't seeing a $24,000 car there.
Which is sorta good - I wasn't seeing a $24,000 car there.
Ended up at 7600.00 final bid. Reserve not met.
Northcoast300h
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I'm guessing $10,000 would be a legit price for this car. Anyone with me?
Although I love my 300 Hurst, I know its nothing as special as a Cuda or Superbird. It's just a 300 with special paint job, fiberglass hood and deck. The prototype was much better (as usual) but it was too expensive to make with a 6pack, special suspension, moonroof, etc. But in 1970, Hurst made many extra fiberglass hood and decks thinking Chrysler was going to continue production in 1971, so they are easy to reproduce and trick judges if they don't check the VIN and build sheet.
Although I love my 300 Hurst, I know its nothing as special as a Cuda or Superbird. It's just a 300 with special paint job, fiberglass hood and deck. The prototype was much better (as usual) but it was too expensive to make with a 6pack, special suspension, moonroof, etc. But in 1970, Hurst made many extra fiberglass hood and decks thinking Chrysler was going to continue production in 1971, so they are easy to reproduce and trick judges if they don't check the VIN and build sheet.
fury fan
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I don't know about $10k, I don't follow the prices on these very much.
But clearly the lack of description of the car's mechanical condition wouldn't help the bidding.
I can't imagine anyone bidding high on a car like this on Copart unless they thought they were getting a bargain. To get high bidding in any auction you need 2 horses to have a race, but if both horses are lame so is the bidding.
Is the small/tight font on the door sticker correct? It's unlike any I have ever noticed, is it due to being a Hurst?
Door sticker looks right to me.
I've written about "the Hurst Situation" before here and many of you chimed in with general agreement. We've seen about 10 worn out, beat up, and rusted out Hursts for sale in the 4 1/2 years I've owned mine. And they rarely sell even at the $7-12K range. Why?
Because nobody want's a "driver quality" or a "patina" Hurst. Same goes for an Olds 442, a Mid-year Vette, any Hemi car, the Boss Nine Mustang, COPO or Z28 Camaro, etc. A collector wants them to be "right". If we agree on that collector car situation, what are the specifics of the Hurst?
Two things. The very high cost of restoration to a high standard (which maybe impossible if you're starting with a crashed rust bucket with a destroyed interior. You can't call AMD for sheetmetal like you can for all the muscle cars now, the wheels are practically unobtainium as are the deck lid and hood)), and the totally unknown market for a high standard Hurst once you're done with it.
I called this the Step Function in earlier posts on the viability of Hurst restoration. Who is going to buy a car like this Boston car for maybe $8-10K, knowing it'll take maybe $55K to reach a high standard, with an unknown chance of selling it someday?
The reserve of $24K is a joke, unless Leno want's one to restore. I figure the seller learned that it's a "rare" car (it's a 300 with a paint job!) and thought he had a payday after buying it from the fourth owner's kids for $3K just to get it out of the deceased parent's driveway.
Thus, the Boston car and several others like it just don't sell. At any price. Makes a good derby car, tho!
I've written about "the Hurst Situation" before here and many of you chimed in with general agreement. We've seen about 10 worn out, beat up, and rusted out Hursts for sale in the 4 1/2 years I've owned mine. And they rarely sell even at the $7-12K range. Why?
Because nobody want's a "driver quality" or a "patina" Hurst. Same goes for an Olds 442, a Mid-year Vette, any Hemi car, the Boss Nine Mustang, COPO or Z28 Camaro, etc. A collector wants them to be "right". If we agree on that collector car situation, what are the specifics of the Hurst?
Two things. The very high cost of restoration to a high standard (which maybe impossible if you're starting with a crashed rust bucket with a destroyed interior. You can't call AMD for sheetmetal like you can for all the muscle cars now, the wheels are practically unobtainium as are the deck lid and hood)), and the totally unknown market for a high standard Hurst once you're done with it.
I called this the Step Function in earlier posts on the viability of Hurst restoration. Who is going to buy a car like this Boston car for maybe $8-10K, knowing it'll take maybe $55K to reach a high standard, with an unknown chance of selling it someday?
The reserve of $24K is a joke, unless Leno want's one to restore. I figure the seller learned that it's a "rare" car (it's a 300 with a paint job!) and thought he had a payday after buying it from the fourth owner's kids for $3K just to get it out of the deceased parent's driveway.
Thus, the Boston car and several others like it just don't sell. At any price. Makes a good derby car, tho!
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To take a realist approach its worth closer to $8000.00. Those willing to do their own work the costs all in would approach $38,000.00. It is very tempting to take on. The plus to this car the critical parts all there. To pay someone to restore it for you could buying a good quality turnkey for the same amount. I agree w/ @Trace 300 Hurst that a driver's quality Hust 300 has little appeal to the collector crowd.
David makes a good point (particularly the $8K number), but "doing their own work" eliminates 98% of people who what any sort of collector car, be it Mopar or other. Getting the bodywork straight is far beyond the abilities of most fellows who want a nice car to drive around and take to shows, etc. And getting the mechanicals squared away is similarly difficult for most, as we've seen here with all the questions about simple timing and carburation. Except for @Samplingman and David Hill, nobody in their right mind would want to take on the work required to bring a big C back from the near-dead.
As for turnkey Hursts, we've seen exactly zero on the market during my time of ownership.
Here's a Hurst that's for sale in PA. Anybody wanna give it a try? It's got a good washer bottle!
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