LocuMob
Fluid Technician with a hat
What? You can change the color of the trim? No wonder why they want to make autonomous cars, so the driver can play with it!
Glut of Unsold Cars Pushes Fiat Chrysler Into Bargain Mode
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78Brougham
"Chump"
Better they play with it, than with themselves...
King Hooter
Well-Known Member
I was wowed when I first got my '10 Challenger SE/Rallye and noticed the lighted cup holders. And that was almost 5 years ago, how times change.
78Brougham
"Chump"
Getting back on track here.... I was watching the boob tube recently and nothing poised me of more than than seeing these asinine discounts that these companies are giving this time of year.
Let me get this straight... all year long you sell these things at a retarded list price, with a limited discount on them... then after you have a bunch laying around, so you knock off $15k of the sticker! Ford is a perfect example of this for their overpriced trucks.
Hey, manufacturer... why don't you sell them at a decent price to begin with and sell twice as many, instead of getting stuck with half of them and giving them away! Not to mention putting off the poor slob that just bought one before your sham rebate.
What a scam.
Let me get this straight... all year long you sell these things at a retarded list price, with a limited discount on them... then after you have a bunch laying around, so you knock off $15k of the sticker! Ford is a perfect example of this for their overpriced trucks.
Hey, manufacturer... why don't you sell them at a decent price to begin with and sell twice as many, instead of getting stuck with half of them and giving them away! Not to mention putting off the poor slob that just bought one before your sham rebate.
What a scam.
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LocuMob
Fluid Technician with a hat
That's why it pays to wait. (I didn't wait
)
Rebates are a function of inventory levels and nothing else. If the manufacturer could sell every car at MSRP they would but as inventory levels rise and cars sit longer than 90 days the factory has an obligation to the Dealers to provide discounts to move otherwise stagnant vehicles. As we are seeing now with Dealers sitting on huge amounts of unsold vehicles and the factory keeps churning out more due to Union/Vendor commitments the rebate money is being thrown around willy nilly. It is strictly an enticement to buy these old age units to help the Dealer mitigate costs and get them to purchase more unsold/unwanted factory cars. However up here we often see the rebates stay the same all year long with little adjustments here and there. This is more a function of the exchange and how the factory uses rebates as a price control to offset the difference in the dollar between Canada and the US. It is company policy to have Dealers load up on past models in Q4 so that we can offer "Big Savings" in Q1 which goes against the Dealers mindset that noone wants last years model when they can have the latest for a few dollars more.
rapidtrans
Senior Member
Fortunately for a buyer, with no annual model changes like the old days, the previous year model is indeterminate from new. In fact I could tell most people my 16 Charger was brand new. They wouldn’t no the difference from a 20 model.
Maybe on the SXT and GT's there isn't too many changes
Unless you owned a 19 or 20 Scat Pack/Hellcat.....
I could point out the differences immediately on Scat Pack/Hellcat models.
Grills, hoods, wheels, brakes, rotors, wheels tires, lights, Hellcat air box, other SRT stuff. 19 and newer Scat Packs have line lock and launch control as stock equipment. My 19 Scat Pack Plus has the heavy duty rear end with the 41 spline axles. All the Hellcat brake stuff. 6 piston Brembo and 15 4" rotors. 9.5" wheels and 275 tires.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
OK. So what's new in 2020 over 2019 (Challenger and Charger)?
What's New for 2020?
For 2020, Dodge's Widebody package is now an option on the Scat Pack; widebody cars also receive unique front and rear bumper designs. Scat Pack Chargers with the Widebody package come standard with three-mode adaptive Bilstein dampers. Opting for the Widebody package also carries over the brakes and rotors from the Hellcat and 20- x 11-inch wheels wrapped with wider tires. Throughout the lineup, Dodge has added myriad wheel options, with names such as Devil's Rim and Warp Speed, and Brass Monkey. Buyers looking to further customize the looks of their Charger can opt for the Satin Black Appearance package that covers the hood, roof, decklid, and spoiler. For those wanting to spruce up the interior, Dodge is now offering a Carbon and Suede package that adds real carbon-fiber accents to the instrument panel and console, as well as the addition of faux suede to the headliner, visors, and front roof pillars. Rounding out changes for 2020 are three new paint colors: Frostbite, Hellraisin, and Sinamon.
2020 Challenger...welcome to Special Editions like the 50th Anniversary
With no design tweaks in sight, the FCA’s only remaining course of action is the introduction of potential special edition models and new trims. That’s exactly what they’ve done with the Demon in 2018 and Hellcat Redeye in 2019. And now that 2020 is upon us, the FCA’s pony gets the 50th Anniversary Appearance Package which adds the iconic shaker hood, lots of “50” logos all over the place, special Gold School painted alloy wheels, unique, and a Gold Rush paint job (not mandatory as rostbite, Hellraisin, Sinamon Stick, TorRed, F8 Green, and Go Mango are also available). The package can be ordered with any trim level and costs between $5,000 and $6,000.
The Challenger muscle notchback coupe retains its powertrain lineup with the most recent updates being conducted during MY 2019. The entry-level models start with a 3.6L V6 capable of producing 305 horsepower and 268 pound-feet of torque, available in either rear or all-wheel-drive configurations.
The muscle car’s true heart and soul, however, beats through a 375-horsepower and 410 lb-ft of torque 5.7L V8, while those in need for even more power are free to turn to the optional 6.4L V8. The larger Hemi is available in the $40,000 R/T Scat Pack models and generates 485 horses and 476 pound-feet of rotational force.
The vaunted SRT Hellcat models carry over with their 6.2L supercharged V8s, but this time make as much as 717 ponies and 656 pound-feet of twist. Finally, the aforementioned Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye manages to squeeze as much as 797 hp and 707 lb-ft of torque from the same Hellcat powerplant. Every single model still comes with a version of the 8-speed auto, whereas the naturally aspirated V8s can also be paired with a proper manual.
So some graphics and special paint....meh
For 2020, Dodge's Widebody package is now an option on the Scat Pack; widebody cars also receive unique front and rear bumper designs. Scat Pack Chargers with the Widebody package come standard with three-mode adaptive Bilstein dampers. Opting for the Widebody package also carries over the brakes and rotors from the Hellcat and 20- x 11-inch wheels wrapped with wider tires. Throughout the lineup, Dodge has added myriad wheel options, with names such as Devil's Rim and Warp Speed, and Brass Monkey. Buyers looking to further customize the looks of their Charger can opt for the Satin Black Appearance package that covers the hood, roof, decklid, and spoiler. For those wanting to spruce up the interior, Dodge is now offering a Carbon and Suede package that adds real carbon-fiber accents to the instrument panel and console, as well as the addition of faux suede to the headliner, visors, and front roof pillars. Rounding out changes for 2020 are three new paint colors: Frostbite, Hellraisin, and Sinamon.
2020 Challenger...welcome to Special Editions like the 50th Anniversary
With no design tweaks in sight, the FCA’s only remaining course of action is the introduction of potential special edition models and new trims. That’s exactly what they’ve done with the Demon in 2018 and Hellcat Redeye in 2019. And now that 2020 is upon us, the FCA’s pony gets the 50th Anniversary Appearance Package which adds the iconic shaker hood, lots of “50” logos all over the place, special Gold School painted alloy wheels, unique, and a Gold Rush paint job (not mandatory as rostbite, Hellraisin, Sinamon Stick, TorRed, F8 Green, and Go Mango are also available). The package can be ordered with any trim level and costs between $5,000 and $6,000.
The Challenger muscle notchback coupe retains its powertrain lineup with the most recent updates being conducted during MY 2019. The entry-level models start with a 3.6L V6 capable of producing 305 horsepower and 268 pound-feet of torque, available in either rear or all-wheel-drive configurations.
The muscle car’s true heart and soul, however, beats through a 375-horsepower and 410 lb-ft of torque 5.7L V8, while those in need for even more power are free to turn to the optional 6.4L V8. The larger Hemi is available in the $40,000 R/T Scat Pack models and generates 485 horses and 476 pound-feet of rotational force.
The vaunted SRT Hellcat models carry over with their 6.2L supercharged V8s, but this time make as much as 717 ponies and 656 pound-feet of twist. Finally, the aforementioned Challenger SRT Hellcat Redeye manages to squeeze as much as 797 hp and 707 lb-ft of torque from the same Hellcat powerplant. Every single model still comes with a version of the 8-speed auto, whereas the naturally aspirated V8s can also be paired with a proper manual.
So some graphics and special paint....meh
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rapidtrans
Senior Member
To 90% of the public?
Nothing.
Nothing.
Certainly good deals right now. We're waiting on the rumor of an AWD Pacifica or I'd be buying my wife a new one in this environment. Need to wait for the sale of our company before I get a hellcat, but def some online deals out there even before you haggle
I've seen a number of nice brand new Hellcats in the $60k-$65k range.
Redeye's have been staying in the mid-$90k range.
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
With all those Special Edition Challengers, I'll stand out among the crowd with the "stripper" Scat Pack.
For 20 grand less, yet.
For 20 grand less, yet.
MarPar
Meat Man with a Hat
commando1
Old Man with a Hat
Is that before or after the $10,000.00 in phony rebates no one on Earth qualifies for?
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