NOT MINE 52-Mile 1977 Newport Sedan on BaT (No Reserve)
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Old Man with a Hat
Hmmmm........
69CoronetRT
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Cool car.
Coding protocols change year to year and plant to plant
Looking at the fender tag, you'd (erroneously) think the car was 'radio delete'.
Looking at the sticker tells us otherwise.
Coding protocols change year to year and plant to plant
Looking at the fender tag, you'd (erroneously) think the car was 'radio delete'.
Looking at the sticker tells us otherwise.
Interesting that it was in bought in nearby Fayetteville and spent its life around here. The Sears that sold the battery is 10 minutes away from me. Right now it's not far away in Warners. I've never seen it or at least, don't remember it and I don't recognize the guy driving it.
@march posted about this one a couple months ago. NOT MINE - Very Low Mileage 77 Newport in Syracuse, NY when it only had 31 miles on it. And discussed it on page 3 of this thread. For Sale - Here Ya Go Commando1
Since it's close, if anyone is serious, I can look at the car.
@march posted about this one a couple months ago. NOT MINE - Very Low Mileage 77 Newport in Syracuse, NY when it only had 31 miles on it. And discussed it on page 3 of this thread. For Sale - Here Ya Go Commando1
Since it's close, if anyone is serious, I can look at the car.
Wow. That is so cool, and the original buyer went for the rust proofing.
roadwheels would really be a nice upgrade to it
This car was at the Syracuse Nationals this past year parked not far from the 4H building.I spent a good amount of time looking it over.Funny I have never seen this car before as well.As far as I can tell it's the real deal.
Floor jack?
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
Another bullshit low mileage car on BaT (will it ever end).
There is more than 52 miles of dirt on these plug wire, I can kind of, sort of understand the rust and corrosion in the engine compartment being a upstate NY car and poor storage in a unheated environment during the winter months but those plug wires don't corrode or rust and that is road grime from many many miles.
Also note that BaT takes Hi-Res pictures but the undercarriage pictures look to be done with a potato cam.
And where are the exhaust/cat heat shields?
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There is more than 52 miles of dirt on these plug wire, I can kind of, sort of understand the rust and corrosion in the engine compartment being a upstate NY car and poor storage in a unheated environment during the winter months but those plug wires don't corrode or rust and that is road grime from many many miles.
Also note that BaT takes Hi-Res pictures but the undercarriage pictures look to be done with a potato cam.
And where are the exhaust/cat heat shields?
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tbm3fan
Old Man with a Hat
Looking at the gas and brake pedals I see a fair amount of dirt embedded in them. At 50 miles that much when the carpet is pristine. I have my doubts also.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
meh I'm not to worried about the brake pedal, it does have some mung on it but the lower right corner rubber looks unworn, gas pedal is out of focus so can't tell anything there. For the age and amount of time this car has been recently moved around the mung on the brake pedal is understandable but why oh why if this is the pro BaT photographer that they don't take a rag and wipe the rubber off to highlight such a low mileage car. (seen this in many other pictures).
I not implying that this is a rolled over 100k+ mileage car but one would need to look for date codes on the tires and wear as my eyeballing the pictures it looks to me the rolling tires vs. the spare tire may have 100's if not a few 1,000 miles on them.
It appears that this car was at some shows in 2014 & 2025 but it must of been trailered to keep the odometer at 50 mile mark.
Back in the 70's it was not uncommon for owners to disconnect the speedometer cable to keep the car in warranty range. The mid 70's was rife with quality control issues and warranty claims and with a 12 month 12,000 mile standard warranty a lot of people were jigging things around.
I know I was asked a few times to disconnect a speedometer cable on a new car someone had bought back then and also knew the speedometer cable head had a plastic connector tab that would break when you pressed the tab to remove to prevent odometer fraud, so that way was out of the question. Transmission cable nut should have warranty paint on it but many new cars (Ford) I saw in the late 70's & early 80's didn't have that and when I was approached on this subject I'd just respond "Yeah if you want to pay me 50 bucks to crawl under your car I'll do it" and 50 bucks in the 70's was a bit of coin and would shut them up quick. lol
This is a nice car but if it really does have 50 miles on it I'd bore scope it to check the crosshatch and for any rusting in the cylinders as we all know at 50 miles the car hasn't been broken in and fresh un-glazed cylinder walls are ripe to rust so that would be a concern if you would actually use the car. Plus also the usual rubber/plastic parts that may have deteriorated with age, fluids etc. But as far as if the car has 50, 500, or 5,000 miles on it would have to have a good experienced person eyeballing it in person. The black undercoating is a little questionable too as this maybe a fresh coverup trick, easy check is to scrape back a edge in a rusted area to edge of undercoat and if it's rusted under the undercoat it would be fresh coverup. Why?
Oh yeah... to make it POP! Also appears to be two forms of undercoating as we see the brown cosmoline type in the trunk vs. black under car. I never saw this brown cosmoline on the inner trunk quarter panels on my 1976/77 (3) Gran Fury's but this car did have dealer installed undercoating.
Remember we have just seen that 2k+ mile Road Runner that was on BaT (went for $42k+) that was pretty much showroom mint to compare to this car images.
It's also funny that they show the Quaker State Oil letter as back in the late 70's maybe early 80's there was a bad batch of Quaker State multi-viscosity oil that had a recall consumer lawsuit where in very cold sub-zero temperatures the oil turned into Jell-O and engines would seize up on cold weather startup's. That happened to the 1976 Plymouth Gran Fury Brougham that I got for free from the cab company I serviced the cars for in the 80's. I don't know the whole story other than Quaker State put a new engine in it via the claim, but best I could tell is that it got a wreaking yard motor. Didn't bother checking numbers... it was free after all and ran pretty good.
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Old Man with a Hat
No John there are 2 letters, one is upside down but they were for lubrication of engine which just rang a bell in my head as I used Quaker State with poor results in the late 60's and 1970, but after my first brand new motorcycle was tied up in the dealer for most of the summer riding season with warranty work in 1970 although first time wasn't oil related but second time was crank bearing and I learned my lesson and switched to Valvoline. Then of course with my brand new Harleys I didn't scrimp and bought Harley oil right from the dealer.
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Yea, I went back and re-read the letters and saw I was wrong, so I had deleted my post. Apparently not quick enough LOL....
But the Quaker State goop was brown and all over the place. And they did have a horrible fail where they couldn't honor their warranty.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
Yeah I hated that brown ****, I didn't work on many cars mostly commercial light trucks, but I did on occasion work on a car that had that cosmoline type but it depended on the person that applied it as to how much coverage the car got but I do remember getting that **** all over my work shirt & sleeves when the temperature was hot and that **** was sticky all over the engine compartment (wiring). scheeech.
And anyone with experience back in the day working on a Ziebart car and pulling a door panel and just seeing one line of undercoating going across the inner door panel... HA!
There is a warranty letter for the undercoating but I couldn't distinguish what kind/brand other than being dealer applied but it's funny there is what appears to be fresh black under the car and the brown stuff in the trunk.
But imagine this car being some old timers pride & joy car, he works hard all his life at a company, retires (maybe with a company pension) gets a big severance paycheck and goes out and buys a brand new car, maybe the first brand new car he ever owned (pride & joy) drives it a little bit... then croaks. Wife or other heirs can't deal with parting with it and it sits in garage or barn until the day it has to be done. I've rubbed shoulders with many life long gas station mechanics (at the bar) then when they retire they get the big 'C' and croak... sad but true.
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Yep, saw a Camaro like that with the quarter panel off and one line of Ziebart up the center.
Yea, I was thinking the two went together for some dumb reason....
There's a lien release from Syracuse University Credit Union, so I think we can assume they worked for them in some capacity or had a spouse that did. They have about 5k employees right now, probably less in 1977, but still a major employer for Syracuse at that time. But same scenario... Maybe works in maintenance or something like that... Gets a year end deal on a new Chrysler that they couldn't sell because it's green and has no A/C. Then it gets parked.
I'd love to know the real story, but most likely it's going to be third or fourth hand exaggeration from the guys selling the car.
Mr C
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I went looking for the factory grease pencil inspection marks that a low mile original should have (heck my brother's car does)...and I see none. The car is in great preserved condition but the lack of factory markings makes me wonder.
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