Another good reason to drive an older car

[300Nutter]

In case you needed one....

Terrifying: Hackers take over a Jeep driving down the highway at 70 mph


http://bgr.com/2015/07/21/car-hacking-experiment-charlie-miller/

I would avoid any vehicle that has the potential to be hacked remotely. Including most with BlueTooth, Wifi, OnStar, remote keyless entry, and even TPMS monitors.

The more of that stuff on your car, the more vunerable it is.

Here is another article on the subject:

http://www.wired.com/2014/08/car-hacking-chart/

 

[bluefury361]

I would avoid any vehicle that has the potential to be hacked remotely. Including most with BlueTooth, Wifi, OnStar, remote keyless entry, and even TPMS monitors.

The more of that stuff on your car, the more vunerable it is.

Thank goodness the admiral is a radio delete car.

 

[Wollfen]

Motor companies have been planning this for 60 years,

 

[1978 NYB]

We test remote operated vehicles at APG but we are right behind it in the control vehicle.

 

[polara66hardtop]

according to the local Chrysler Dealer only vehicles with the 8.4 touch screen are in question. . There have been 13 Hacked there. However, any 13-15 models with the 430 Uconnect is not vulnerable. The Chrysler 300's and Challengers had the most 8.4 units. They are struggling it sounds like to make a patch. I guess the 8.4 never turns off, and has a cell phone line to the internet. Some of the dumbest people on the planet are computer guys/Engineers.

 

[300Nutter]

Keeping any wireless system relatively secure requires a fair amount of "creative paranoia".

 

[patrick66]

Reason #229,666 I'll never own anything newer than 2000.

And you will NEVER see GPS, SatNav, or any other mapping system in a car I own.

 

[300Nutter]

I think the stand-alone GPS is OK, as long as it doesn't have bluetooth or wifi or someway to connect to the computers in your car.

The OFF button is the best thing ever invented for electronic gadets.

 

[commando1]

Being a map person all my life I thought NAV was as stupid as 22" wheels until I got my first one.
It is an absolute necessity for me now plus I like having Lorraine telling me what to do.

 

[cm23uoc]

Being a map person all my life I thought NAV was as stupid as 22" wheels until I got my first one.
It is an absolute necessity for me now plus I like having Lorraine telling me what to do.

Your's not what they call a Navigation System, Stan, we call it a gf. ;)

 

[commando1]

Well, find me a woman who can actually read a map then...

 

[300Nutter]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fiat-chrysler-recalling-1-4-152252955.html

Quote:

"The story highlighted that internet-connected cars are highly vulnerable to external attacks. If a hacker is able to connect to the entertainment system, it seems he or she is also able to wreak havoc with the car’s vital functions."

• Did some more reading on this....apparently newer cars with Bluetooth and Wifi are the most vunerable.

• Remote keyless entry, Onstar, TPMS and PATS (anti-theft) are also theoretically vunerable, but it's the Bluetooth and Wifi where most of the big hacks are aimed.

• And Chrysler is recalling 1.4 million vehicles (linked above) to "fix" the problem.

If anyone has a newer car with Bluetooth and Wifi, might want to see if it's being recalled.

 

[patrick66]

I can take spoken directions, drive 700 miles to get where I need to, and arrive without all that hi-tech crap. I use maps when I need them.

It's amazing when I have to provide directions to someone and start to provide them, when they'll say "Oh, all I need is your address!" and do the GPS thing. If I have my computer available, I'll do the same and look on Bing Maps, look at the directions and go. It's the same as if I used spoken directions, or used a paper map. I do not get lost.

My cellphone allows me to talk and text, period. A 3G guy on a 4G planet.

 

[BIGBARNEYCARS]

I miss watching Floyd an Ethel going down the road in their '60 somethin' chebby pickup with the camper hangin' over all sidez of the bed. You let them pass you and look down. Yup! Theirz Floyd all skooched up under the steering wheel holdin' on with ah two handed death grip at 4:00 and 8:00 and there sitz Ethel the navigator death grip on the AAA map on her lap followin' that little green line. Floyd makez ah turn left or right, Ethel turnz the map the same way. Better then watchin' some Doofes tryin' to read ah Randy McNally spread out on hiz steerin' wheel tryin' to find hiz way around D.C. on 495 durin' the morning rush!

 

[300Nutter]

...My cellphone allows me to talk and text, period. A 3G guy on a 4G planet.

I've got this Nokia E71 cell phone that is about what...five years old now? SO it's way out of date, but when I first got it...it had a nice turn-by-turn GPS guidance, even on 3G...which was as fast as the data could go.

Then Microsoft bought Nokia and killed all the software updates. So...the GPS is broken..has been for two years now...and they will never fix it, because they want me to upgrade to a Windows phone instead. Lots of other stuff (like email) used to work on this phone, but it's "broken" now because the Nokia server that is required to use it never got updated.

What would it have cost Nokia/Microsoft to do those updates or at least keep what they had running? Not much. But they use bully tactics to force people to do what they want to make more $$$.

Another reason I hate Microsoft.

*rant mode off*

 

[commando1]

My cell phone recently celebrated its 10th birthday.
Been thru the washer a couple of times, too.

 

[patrick66]

I will never own another damn "smart" phone. I like the anonymity of a 3G w/o GPS.

 

[Tink]

I live about 30 miles SE of downtown Houston Texas and if I have to go anywhere in that city, at minimum I need a map. I use an iPhone 4S and it has a map app. Its kind of old school with its tracking map but when surrounded by 18 wheelers trying to change lanes because of road work so you can't see the exit sign, I don't leave home without it.

 

[78Brougham]

I'm in love with Lorraine

 

[53ryder]

What's a cell phone? Oh...it's what most other have....except me!

Glenn