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I never did find the imperial section... somewhere in "G" land... someone from here with the white 75 Imperial, said srew it and came by us.
2016 Carlisle Car Photo's
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Georg/BBTR
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polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Yes..... Thank you. Looks like you covered the field. I never got over to investigate it. I wish they wouldn't separate wagons from the heard
Georg/BBTR
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Can you guys help me to get a better picture of that show? It's the biggest Mopar event in the US, right? Then I assume that participants are coming from all over the States, correct?
If so I am really shocked that there are so few C-bodies, especially my favorite models, the Fuselage cars. Like said before, I would have expected at least 80 to 100 Fuselages.
How many Mopars are there in all?
If so I am really shocked that there are so few C-bodies, especially my favorite models, the Fuselage cars. Like said before, I would have expected at least 80 to 100 Fuselages.
How many Mopars are there in all?
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
I can break it down real easy... Metric Challengers. So many, instead of driving the long distance in a 45 year old car simply take their new car, rides good, fuel economy is great, faster, good radio and air conditioning. There's a reason why there is 800 new trucks, challengers and Chargers on the field.
polara71
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And then I will ask you to ask everyone on this board that didn't go, why they didn't go and you'll have your answers
Georg/BBTR
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Okay, wait. There are 800 modern cars and they face how many classic Mopars (let's say built before 1986)?
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Dave's being cryptic, what is there like 2,000 classics there, mostly B, E & A bodies?
I didn't go this year because I just couldn't squeeze it in after a 2 week 2,000 mile roadtrip in my Imp to the east coast a month and a half ago and also spending a small fortune on both of my drivers this year.
I didn't go this year because I just couldn't squeeze it in after a 2 week 2,000 mile roadtrip in my Imp to the east coast a month and a half ago and also spending a small fortune on both of my drivers this year.
Georg/BBTR
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Okay, so how many C-bodies were there this year? 40 Fuselages, 10 Formals and what - maybe 50 Slab Sides and Forwards? That would be something like five percent of all present cars. Not a lot. Is the C-body community in the US really so small?
I mean those cars (Fuselages) are at least 43 years old and true classic cars. Is the average Joe not considering them as classic cars?
I mean those cars (Fuselages) are at least 43 years old and true classic cars. Is the average Joe not considering them as classic cars?
I've read that this year's count was 2700 cars. I did a quick count of classes and came up with 171 classes. Do the math and that's about 16 cars average per class.
IMHO, 40 Fuselages is a pretty good turnout. Yes, there will always be more B bodies, but the number of C bodies is growing at a steady rate.
IMHO, 40 Fuselages is a pretty good turnout. Yes, there will always be more B bodies, but the number of C bodies is growing at a steady rate.
Georg/BBTR
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Don't get me wrong, 40 Fuselages is a great turnout for sure, but I would have expected more since the cars come from this country. Considering this, the turnout of 26 Fuselages at my little BBTR show in Germany is even better. I had no chance to put my number in comparison so far.
And as always - we Europeans expect everything in the USA to be bigger. Reminds me of my first flight to the USA some 25 years ago. The Frankfurt airport is HUGE and I expected New York's JFK to be even bigger. But it wasn't. That made me kind of disappointed... ;-)
Yes, the C body community is very small compared to the rest.
What you have is a small part (C bodies) of a small community (Mopars). They are never going to be as popular as the rest.
If you go back to when the cars were new, the marketing of the C bodies was to the older crowd, just as the marketing of the B and C bodies was to the younger people. Fast forward 40 years and the guys that can afford the B and E bodies are the guys that were the younger crowd when the cars were new. Their parents may have owned C bodies, but the dream of a teenage boy was a new Roadrunner, not a 4 door Fury. Carry that dream forward 40 years and you have the guy with the Roadrunner out on the showfield.
That's just one reason... There are many more.
Georg/BBTR
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I am aware of this, that's not different to Germany.
Yes, I experienced that already. I have two good friends from California and Oregon and they are both in their late 60s, early 70s and pioneers in the aircooled VW performance industry. When they paid me a visit last year they were a bit confused about my latest acquisition (a 1969 New Yorker 4dr HT) and told me that they liked the Chargers and Challengers back then, but a New Yorker was something for a middle age dad with kids (well I am now a middle age dad with kids
"It would have been just a good tow car for us to get our race VWs to the drag strips!" That's what they said... 
I suck at this... I know...Thanks for the pics Bob! Well done!
Cantflip - are you paying attention ???
"It would have been just a good tow car for us to get our race VWs to the drag strips!" That's what they said...
I drove C bodies back in the 70's for the same reason... They were affordable, comfortable tow cars for my Roadrunner drag car.
Mr C
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There was a black a 72 or 73 Imperial 4dr in the pics I've seen...
Mr C
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Imperials are segregated too aren't they? Some may have been in that category...
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
Yes....All imperial park together
polara71
Old Man with a Hat
No I'm not. Cars that are 15 years old and newer make up at least 1/3rd of the participants
There was a lot of the show field I never did get figured out... I spent too much time in the swap and the heat drove many away early... I only ever left the fair grounds after dark Friday and Saturday to go sleep... right back after my morning posts here...
I did have to INSIST on being in the 74-78 stock area when I registered an Imperial... Then the 76 NYB had them scratching their heads where to put me (same place). I wanted to be with you guys... I don't need a trophy or a pat on the back, we have great people and cool cars here... who cares about anything else.
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