The closest call I had for the trip was on the grounds as I was leaving. Apparently, the 300 became invisible for a brief instant.
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The closest call I had for the trip was on the grounds as I was leaving. Apparently, the 300 became invisible for a brief instant.
I have to agree that the car scene must be completely different in Europe.
For a little perspective... The first car show I participated in was 1982 and the car, my 69 A12 Roadrunner was 13 years old. A sixth generation Charger could be 10 years old and a third generation Challenger could be 8 years old.
My 92 Chryslers at Carlisle shirt has a 69 A12 Bee on it. A 23 year old car at the time.
Using a little math... by European standards, I would have never been able to show my 69 A12 until 2006.
The 60's era muscle cars became popular on the show field back when they weren't much older than the metric Challengers and Chargers of today.
I look at it this way.... It's bringing enthusiasts to the show and if you don't like their cars, don't spend any time looking at them.... But 34 years ago, I was one of the guys with a "new" car.
For a little perspective... The first car show I participated in was 1982 and the car, my 69 A12 Roadrunner was 13 years old. A sixth generation Charger could be 10 years old and a third generation Challenger could be 8 years old.
My 92 Chryslers at Carlisle shirt has a 69 A12 Bee on it. A 23 year old car at the time.
Using a little math... by European standards, I would have never been able to show my 69 A12 until 2006.
The 60's era muscle cars became popular on the show field back when they weren't much older than the metric Challengers and Chargers of today.
I look at it this way.... It's bringing enthusiasts to the show and if you don't like their cars, don't spend any time looking at them.... But 34 years ago, I was one of the guys with a "new" car.
Georg/BBTR
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No, I don't think so. We may have different show formats (one day shows in SoCal starting at 6 am and ending by 2 pm vs weekend shows in Europe for example) but the classic car people are pretty much the same.
Georg/BBTR
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Not correct. You can bring your 20 year old car to most classic car show in Europe, as it is considered to be a modern-era classic car. I brought my 1969 Ghia to a classic car show in 1992 - a 23 year old vehicle back then. No problem.
You guys in the US might be a bit more open minded when it comes to cars in general. Events like "Cars & Coffee" are hardly accepted at least in Germany, because owners of vintage cars wouldn't check out super cars and the other way round. They don't understand that all people at an event like this are car enthusiasts.
See quote from Carsten above.
Yea, I think it's a different mind set. I go to a "Cars and Coffee" cruise on Saturday morning. There's everything from new Corvettes to Model A Fords. All are welcome and everybody mingles. Similar cars may park together, but that's as far as it goes.
The cruise nights (at least one every night) are the same way. There's always a large mix of cars.
As i recall that "Bee" was the give-away car that year.
At 3:00 pm Sunday they raffled it off. Raffle ticket was your daily entry stub.
300rag
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I think it's because those kind of shows tend to be more of a bs session for the owners who just happen to have driven there in their classics, hot rods, muscle cars, etc, rather than a spectators event.
I knew the guy that won the car! He was about 30 feet away from me when they called his number. Funny thing was he was the editor of "Super Ford Magazine".
I don't know what happened to the car though. He had some personal issues after that and I'm sure the car got sold.
polara71
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With the crowd of Metrics on the field obviously there's a want, need and interest. I never look at them but I know plenty that do AND plenty of the owners that bring those cars have old cars themselves
My dad told me a Story that he played the raffle and was A number or letter off from winning that car.
Yep, they make for a bigger and better show imo.
I did want to see what guys were doing for stripes on their new Chargers but didn't make it.
Lots of vendors over that way had stripe kits... sorry, I bought a few detail supplies at a mild discount and moved on... that evening I used the brush car wash to "detail" the parts car... The radio hasn't had reception since I cycled the antenna either... On the way home I was so tired of hearing myself sing,hum,whistle... I wanted to choke myself.
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bluefury361
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I don't base a vehicle's eledgability to qualify as show worthy based on how old it is, but more on it's visual appeal and the passion it creates when viewed. New or old, If it makes me smile, I'm glad it's there.
Georg/BBTR
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Yes, the Mopar Nats have an age restriction, but like I said, most regular classic car shows are open to cars older then 20 years.
There are also events with old and new cars, but they are usually shows for one specific brand.
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Dave, that is exactly why I don't like modern cars on the field.
Very often the owners of old&new cars take the modern ones to the show (because they drive better, more comfort etcetc). So they leave the old one at home. If it would be a old car only show some of them (not all) would come with their classic because they want to attend "active" and not just as a visitor parking outside.
If modern cars are not allowed you increase the amount of classics at least by a certain percentage.
Carsten
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John,
it is pretty different. Also inbetween the European countries. Even within one country (like Germany).
Mopar or American cars shows always played in their own league compared to other classic cars.
They had a cut off date early. Our first german Mopar Meeting had a cut off date of 1979, too. Back in 1994 ! At the time those unwanted cars were 15 years and younger.
So the cut off date at American cars shows has nothing to do with the exact age but the attitude behind the cars. They have a big V8, rear wheel drive and are gas guzzlers. That's the way most Europeans like their American car. No k-cars, chevy Chevettes allowed etc. So till today many American car shows use the same cut off date off late 70s because at that time the last full size cars died.
This date doesn't change because it was the end of an area.
The average classic car show (not American car show) in Germany has a timeline like 20 years or 30 years for the cars attending.
In the more populated areas the American car scene lives a life completely independent from the other classic car scene.
Carsten
commando1
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I hate Metrics at car shows.
Maybe... But simply talking to our members who had reasons to bring a late model DD instead of their C body, I learned that it was cheaper and a lot less walking for them to put their DD on the showfield than to park it outside. As long as there is space for it... I think it allows for a bigger draw for the vendors and more fans to get to the show even if the classic isn't up to it.
And we all know how much I liked the swap...
commando1
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I have zero issues with owning, driving, and appreciating a Metric, the audacity of driving it onto a show field and thinking you're special because you actually figured out how to install a purple air filter just makes my blood boil.
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