NOT MINE 1970 Chrysler 300 *T code 440* Nebraska
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Old Man with a Hat
Must of been a VIP with the Motorola car phone (not cellphone) back in the day.
The cars been dolled up, has headrest covers and same on drivers door arm rest. Why would the driver door armrest need covering in 40k miles you have to ask yourself. Under hood may be painted as the latch appears to be same paint as body color. Is that not right?
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The cars been dolled up, has headrest covers and same on drivers door arm rest. Why would the driver door armrest need covering in 40k miles you have to ask yourself. Under hood may be painted as the latch appears to be same paint as body color. Is that not right?
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The cloth and vinyl bucket seats in the 1970 300s was a special order option and came with that specific headrest that differed from the more oval vinyl ones on the regular 300s with vinyl bucket seats.
Moparbrad
Active Member
I love the color combo on this car. Very fitting! But my issue is I believe that car had some front end collision repairs. One, the drivers fender fits a little funny, especially down low. That’s a characteristic of the front end being pushed up at the core support. The front valance is pretty funky. The fender tag area appears to have been brush painted. And the whole left front of the car is higher than the right. Thoughts?
SeaFuse
Member
Spoke with seller. Auto Temp does not work - they will double check but they put effort to get heat and A/C running and nada on both. Also, according to the dealer, car was repainted at some point - was originally red they believe. They see the red behind door panels and such. Original owner preferred brown is what they were told (it was the 70's....). Here is fender tag if somebody wants to decode. Had a trailer hitch when they bought it (fuel tank replaced as it was rubbing hitch). Story goes a Chrysler exec in NM ordered it from a dealer in MN. Has Holley square bore carb. They do not know if it was repainted due to accident.
FT6 surely isn't red, it is deep bronze metallic if the fender tag is original to the car. The front end also does look a bit warped and the driver side fender to door gap is excessive too. So caution might be warranted..........................
SeaFuse
Member
Interesting. Perhaps the red body panel came from another car. Who knows. Just goes to show why to not buy a classics sight unseen.
330dTA
Senior Member
I thought it must have had a respray… the period metallic colors did not last long under the sun.
The only thing that makes me pause a little is that the driver door end with the VIN and date decal on it doesn't look molested or repainted and matches the outside color pretty well. That color also doesn't really look all that close to the FT6 sample in the 1970 dealer color and trim selector, either. Maybe that decal was reproduced as I have heard someone is doing that these days...........................
fury fan
Senior Member
Wrong year, wrong wheels, wrong color. You're losing it, @ayilar!
Joking aside, good eye on the VT bubbles - you showed that like I do, but with nicer arrows.
But due to the lack of puckering in the laminated sheetmetal edges behind this trim, I'd say if there's any rust under the VT it's pretty minor.
But here are some oddities on the undercarriage. First time in my life I recall seeing a hoseclamp here, and there's also an oddball bolt. (???)
But most curious is the rolled-edge floorpan reinforcements that are really mashed, along with some undercoating that's strangely missing in the same area.
It does look quite nice, though, and any flaws are likely easy to ignore by the next owner.
But it does seem like Fusey prices are getting a bit out of hand, we are accepting prices that only 2-4 years ago we would've scoffed at.
fury fan
Senior Member
IIRC I've seen a number of cracked armrests on lower-mileage cars, esp before reproductions became available. Here's a 40k armrest, and from near-20 years ago.
Here's a pic from the listing. I agree, the driverside fender looks a little high, look at the rubber flap that goes between bumper and fender, compare to teh passenger side. Looks like the front tip of the fender is porpoised down at the last ~6".
And, yes the radiator support looks like it's had some very particular paint touchup - it looks too fresh around there.
But here's the pic that I noticed immediately, and kept gnawing at me. I said nothing because I thought I was being too suspicious.
That reflection should be near-straight - not dipping downward as if that fender has an outward lip on it.
And the bottom corner looks funny, like it's out too far compared to behind the wheel.
One might say it's all in camera angle, but I'd bet my money it's real. Esp because you can see it in the bumper portrait above and the other side seems different, the way I would expect.
I retract my prior statement about 'flaws that can be ignored' - this car needs eyeballed before spending ~$20k on it to see what this is about.
3C's & a D?
Senior Member
Excellent eye! I noticed the new bolt. Chalk that one up to u joint replacement, someone lost one of the originals.
My '71 New Yorker has the same issue with the floor pans. I doubt it's original, maybe snagged on something? Or someone poking around for rust down there?
I didn't even see the hose clamp on the torsion bar. That is very suspicious, the boot looks like it has seen better days too.
Excellent eye to you too sir! You are without a doubt correct. She has been ditched hard! On the plus side that does look like original exhaust, how often do you see that?
LocuMob
Fluid Technician with a hat
Couldn't have said it better myself.
330dTA
Senior Member
The rimblow steering wheel has the same cracks in it that my former NY’er’s wheel had. A big slot at 12 o’clock, and smaller cracks at 6, 8.30 and 9.30.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
What no mention of the blown up muffler?
Motor and transmission has probably been out. Why didn't they paint the oil pan to match the Mark Whoaman shiny engine paint?
I wasn't going to say anything about the hose clamp on the torsion bar, only The Shadow knows what kind of work has been done in this cars life.
I see in the eBay pictures what your talking with the passenger floor, could be off road or maybe some gas station jockey improper floor jacking. Car looks to have had some steering parts replaced in it's life as the nuts don't match the surrounding rust.
No Yay or Nay on the painted hood latch, what else...
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Motor and transmission has probably been out. Why didn't they paint the oil pan to match the Mark Whoaman shiny engine paint?
I wasn't going to say anything about the hose clamp on the torsion bar, only The Shadow knows what kind of work has been done in this cars life.
I see in the eBay pictures what your talking with the passenger floor, could be off road or maybe some gas station jockey improper floor jacking. Car looks to have had some steering parts replaced in it's life as the nuts don't match the surrounding rust.
No Yay or Nay on the painted hood latch, what else...
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JD Hall
Member
I’d noticed that wave in the fender and the leading edge just didn’t “taper in” at the bottom as it should. Saw the valance and figured it was just tweaked. Then noticed the front view and how you can see way more of the hood surface on the pass side v. drivers side. She’s pretty bent. Wonder if the paint was pre or post event? Wonder if it could be pulled on a rack and would the fender relax? Shame, great looking car otherwise.
SeaFuse
Member
Funny about the hose clamp on the torsion bar boot. Last couple old Mopars I've had came with this "repair." I remember doing similar personally in 80's on a driveway no-budget big block Dart conversion. Was an upgrade over zip ties.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
Did the car roll of the assembly line with any clamps on the rubber balloon seal? I don't think so... so why would anyone need a clamp?
There should be tons of NOS & Re-pop seals around, why not just replace them?
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fury fan
Senior Member
If you're referring to this plate, I don't recall if it should be black or body color.
But regardless, it's fresh, teh spring and lever attest to that.
68PK21 440.6bbl
Old Man with a Hat
No I'm talking about the latch on the hood not the release on the core support.
(edit) The picture is not on the eBay AD, I saw it on the previous linked proxibid auction site photos.
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