1970 Dodge Polara Convertible 383

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  1. ayilar

    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Great find! So, can you tell us more? Did you buy it at an estate sale?

    From the tag, it does not look like a Canadian-bound car. Do you have the paperwork going back, like the window sticker or order papers by any chance? Would love to see those.

    Oh wow — is this a low miles original then?

    From the pics you’ve posted, other than the dash (which you noted is cracked), it looks pretty much spotless. Any evidence (or tale by the seller) of work in the lower areas or of any repaint? I don’t see any, which is why I’m asking to confirm.

    And again, great find!
     
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  2. detmatt

    detmatt Old Man with a Hat FCBO Gold Member

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    Man what a beauty!:wideyed:
     
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  3. polara71

    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Disagree, The C in the Order number tells you it was destined for Canada from conception.
     
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  4. CBODY67

    CBODY67 Old Man with a Hat

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    It was observed on Challenger plastic door trim panels (well before the repros were available) that the black ones held up better than the white ones did. The white ones were all crazed and crumbly, but the black ones were not. As I found out on my '67 Newport "23". with the Pearl White vinyl buckets, as the pearl aged, it became dirty looking. No amount of soap/cleaner would make it look better. Mainly on the tops of the front seat backs, where they'd been touched and the pearl had worn off in a few spots.

    With the black buckets in a convertible, on the hot days, use a colorful plush bath towel to sit on. Just as with a 440+6 car on a road trip in the middle of July.

    Enjoy!
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    CBODY67 Old Man with a Hat

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    Does the car have a kph speedometer rather than mph, installed at the factory?

    Just curious,
    CBODY67
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    No .
     
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    300rag Waiting out the storm FCBO Gold Member

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    Since KPH was not in effect until the 1977 model year, I'll say it is MPH. KPH speedos were available as an option for us on some models in '76. They were not dual marked, but strictly metric.
     
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  8. polara71

    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    :bs_flag: I had a 72 Challenger with a white interior and all the hard plastic was chalk, that was in 92.
    They offered buckets in a hardtop on the Cs. Being a convertible shouldn't have made a difference in deterioration if didn't hold up well .
    Then it begs the question why would Ma care if the interior didn't hold up in ten years?
     
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  9. ayilar

    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Indeed. But what about Y05 — built to USA specs? Just saw another thread where @fc7_plumcrazy noted this point too.

    @Tobias74 — would the Y05 code make it easier to import into the States?
     
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    CBODY67 Old Man with a Hat

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    What I mentioned (chalked white vs. still-good black plastic molded door panels) was what members of our Mopar club determined from their quest for better interior pieces than what they had. And that was in the later '80s and earlier '90s. Everybody wanted to see them in repro, but it didn't happen until later.

    When I started to frequent local salvage yards in search of future-need items, it became obvious that the interiors of Chrysler products were in better conditrion than same-model-year GM cars. Chrysler obviously chose better materials that held up better.

    Consider, too, that Chrysler typically did not service soft trim items after the first model year of production, whereas GM and Ford did. So if the car got out of the initial warranty period, there typically was no need of those parts by customers, so no need to stockpile such parts as GM did. Resultingly, they had to be better to start with so they ended up lasting much longer into the vehicle's total life. Seat covers got a burn hole? To the trim shop. Other things, the salvage yard.

    As for white seats, I normally wear blue denim jeans. Even get a bit sweaty in them, too. When damp, that blue will transfer to other things, like seats (cloth, vinyl, or otherwise). Once there, it's hard to get off/out. Which makes darker grays/black shades a much better option for me. One year at the Fort Worth new car show, there was a new Lincoln SUV there, with the white interior. After two days of being on display, with people getting in and out of it, the white leather driver's seat already had a blue tint to it, especially on the outer edge of the seat cushion. I laughed when I saw that as I knew where it had come from. Certainly not from slacks.

    Y'alls sensitivity to such things might be different than mine, which I respect. Certainly, a white interior tends to look more open and expansive than other colors. Many look really nice, too. Ever wonder why the white seats were usually paired with black carpets?

    Just some thoughts and observations,
    CBODY67
     
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  11. FK3 Sport Fury

    FK3 Sport Fury Hoser in a toque

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    Man,that is a nice find and what a great color.Is that a Saskatchewan plate on the front? Is that where the car came from?
     
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    Tobias74 Well-Known Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Yes it came from Regina , I’m trying to find out how many are made in that Color combination with 383 and Center console
     
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  13. polara71

    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    You won't get that precise with available records.
    It is safe to say , a handful at best.
    Kevin gave us numbers on some colors but for whatever the reason excluded Q3/B3/B5/B7 and a few others. Those numbers are percentages from the options and accessories report from ( I believe) sept 1970.
    I'd have to go through all of the 110 cars I've located over the last 40 years but I'm struggling to recall another Q3 car, well maybe, one other. Once you throw in the console, that drops the number considerably .
     
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    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    Here is another. DL27L0D110005 was equipped similarly to your car (with A/C and a tilt wheel in addition, but with a buddy seat instead of a console). It was in very rough shape when posted for sale a few years ago.

    I have no idea what has happened to that FQ3 Polara ‘vert since. I had misunderstood @fc7_plumcrazy and thought the car had gone to Sweden, but it may still be in West Virginia.
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Thats exactly the one that popped into my head ( very sad really).
     
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    Not quite right: while AFAIK Kevin indeed did not provide Canadian color breakdowns or US figures for blue-painted cars, he did provide info re: US Q3 cars (light turquoise). Here is therefore a partial answer for Tobias, based on information initially posted by @Bill Watson and @kmccabe56 in 2007 (on the sadly defunct Yahoo Board I believe) and re-posted on FCBO in 2013 by @Fratzog with credits given to Bill and Kevin:

    1970 Dodge Polara CVs for sale in Pittsburgh

    See Fred's post for the full info. Here is what's relevant to the present car from "the CANADIAN option & accessory report for 1970. This report is dated 'August 70' (no day of the month) and indicates that 144 Polara convertibles were sold in Canada."

    318 3spd on the column: 1
    318 auto 96
    383-2v auto 41
    440-4v auto 6
    --> Total 144


    As for options, assuming there was no typo on Kevin's list, yours may be the only Canadian car with fender repeaters (Edit: I checked the registry started by @polara71, and Fred's car has the L31 repeaters -- but, as Dave pointed out below, Fred's car is a US car originally so the "1" below might well not be a typo):

    Console 16

    Fender mounted turn signals 1
    Power windows 54
    AM/tape radio 16
    Rim blow wheel 16

    As for colors, I am not aware of a breakdown for Canadian cars, but here is what it was for the USA:

    Light turquoise 25
    Black conv. top 353
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Fred's car isn't a Canadian car...


    I didnt recall there being color breakdown on the Canadian list.


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    Remember these are percentages so its possible 1 could be 2.
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    Wait! So 25 of 144 cars came in Q3?
    353 of 144 cars came with a black top?

    :wtf:
     
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    ayilar Senior Member FCBO Gold Member

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    You're right, of course -- DL27G0D255646 was initially sold in Illinois. Looking at the registry, indeed I don't see any Canadian car with the L31 code.

    I don't think so. AM Radio is 123 and Deluxe Wheel Covers is 120, which cannot be percentages.

    This said... What about DL27G0D106999, which went from Ontario to Ohio a few years back? It has the L31 code. Or Cam Frederickson's L-code in Lethbridge (I don't have much info about his car, but Cam's profile info for "Bert and Ernie" says that his car has the L31 repeaters)?

    No, 25/700 (or 703) US cars.
     
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    polara71 Old Man with a Hat

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    So Q3 is listed?

    Going from memory..