67 Chrysler Newport muscle look

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so i look at my old 4 door sedan, and I realize I don't want an old lady car. Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to get rid of it, but I want to give it that muscle car look, you know? so I'm thinking bigger tires and rims, and a possible hood vent. I couldn't find any aftermarket hoods with scoops, so I looked at the scoops by themselves. but the reason I come here is to ask if what I'm doing is a good idea, or if I'm ruining a classic by making it something it was never meant to be. I WILL NOT be putting new computers and electric windows and such in my car because THAT would be ruining it. I will be putting the engine shown in this vehicle, because the original engine was swapped with a 72 corvette stingray, that engine was destroyed due to flood, so I'll be staying with Mopar parts and putting this 440 in it. to be 100% honest, I don't know to much about mechanics, I'm 17 and I'm only recently allowed to work on vehicles, so I'm learning. I just need to know y'all's opinions on whether this is going to look good. I also included an after market twin hood scoop from a 69 dodge coronet as an idea. please let me know if I'm messing up this car.

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Well, speaking as someone who hot-rodded a 4-door 1968 New Yorker when I was 17, I can honestly say that the 4-door is a good looking body style and it will look good with some nice chrome or aluminum rims and some white letter tires. I wouldn't recommend 17 or 18 inch rims, I think that will ruin the look you're going for. Stick with 15 inch rims. If you can get 16 inch rims I think that would be OK. I've always thought 16 inch is the perfect rim size for most cars, though for some reason they don't seem all that popular right now. You will want to put a dual exhaust on it, but don't get super loud mufflers as they will detract from the stealthyness and sleeperness (if that's even a word) that you are no doubt going for. Don't put the hood scoops on. They are not needed and will just look tacky. You might want to consider getting new rear springs as the ones that are on it will probably be shot. These cars always tended to scrape the rear end on the ground when going over uneven surfaces. I suggest getting new leaf springs that will raise the rear about 1/2 to 1 inch, but no more. It seems to me that most of these boats have air shocks, which I guess is OK since they let you adjust the ride height according to the look you're going for or the amount of people/freight you're carrying. Don't jack the rear way up in the air. It will mess up the alignment, look stupid, and perhaps be a safety hazard if anyone was to rear-end you (they would go right under your car and probably rip out the fuel tank). Good luck!!!!
 
My $0.02 - wheels alone will greatly change the attitude of the car and are easily swapped again later. I'd start with just the wheels, drive it a bit so you can evaluate how you're feeling about it, and go from there. I would do white letter tires for sure, paired with black 15" steel wheels and chrome lug nuts or black steel wheels and dog dish hubcaps to give it a tough, rough-around-the-edges, don't-mess-with-me look. If you want something a little classier, but still tough, chrome Magnum 500s are always a great look.

As far as ruining it, it's not exactly a super rare car, so even speaking as someone who keeps their vehicles stock, I don't think you're necessarily ruining the car by doing a few cosmetic changes. Just make sure you're happy with your decisions before you start cutting or drilling!
 
Personally, I like "incognito" upgrades that do not harm the general character of the car.

Hood scoops? Not on a Chrysler. Dodge or Plymouth, maybe IF they are the correct ones. The reality about hood scoops, according to the old Direct Connection Race Manual, is that to be effective, they must have 30 square inches of opening for ANY benefit. So, you see where that's going. PLUS they can be flaky to "see over" to drive, to me.

The 15x7 Magnum 500s can look good, but a CHRYSLER needs whitewalls on it. BUT being it's a Newport, the 15x7 police wheels and hub caps can look good, too. The 15x6.5 mid-70s Charger SE Rallyes can be good, but with the 1970-style centers. NO need for 15x8s, for any reason. When I put 14x6.5 station wagon wheels on my '67 Newport 2dr, with P245/70R-14 BFG Advantage TA whitewalls (long time out of production, as when I bought them in 1981, they were getting ready to end production), I had to finesse the wheels past the rear brake drums just to get them installed. Clearances are that tight back there, due to the body contours.

2.5" dual exhausts with quieter mufflers will support any V-8 option you might desire. Stock-style rear pipe ends, too. Chase the Chrysler HP exh manifolds. Easier to deal with than headers, in many ways.

The reason the rear pipes drag, or are more prone to it than other brands, is that the C-bodies have longer overhangs on each end of the car. Notice that past the rear wheels, the body angles upward, too. Keep the ride height LEVEL. That way, the front suspension has enough travel to not be bottoming out on bumps and such. Plus enough space so things can be carried in the trunk and not bottom out. Opt for the "HD" rear springs. With the car level, the headlight night-time vision range is better, too!

Understand, too, that a "500 horsepower" engine might sound good to say you have, but that much MORE power than a stock 440HP only happens at 6000+rpm at WOT. Even with the stock 440/375, there is more than enough TORQUE to cook the rear tires.

You can NOT make any of the older cars match modern car performance, unless you want to spend lots of money for a ZF 8-speed automatic and the electronics to run it, for starters. There is a thread or two in here about just that. Except that now controllers are available to run the transmission, aftermarket, rather than re-programming a BMW controller or using a massive amount of external pressure sensors and such. Only really flaky deal might be the adapter to fit it to the back of the RB V-8.

With all of the torque multiplication that ZF low gear can provide, you'll also need some sort of traction bars hidden under there, too.

You CAN have as much fun driving around in a 4-dr sedan as you can in a slick 2-dr hardtop or convertible . . . as for driving it goes. Just resist all of the exterior things that say "I THINK I have a hot rod here" vibes. Do a slick crimson red metallic paint job on it and they'll notice it anyway, without having to "prove how much power is under the hood".

Take care,
CBODY67
 
Well, speaking as someone who hot-rodded a 4-door 1968 New Yorker when I was 17, I can honestly say that the 4-door is a good looking body style and it will look good with some nice chrome or aluminum rims and some white letter tires. I wouldn't recommend 17 or 18 inch rims, I think that will ruin the look you're going for. Stick with 15 inch rims. If you can get 16 inch rims I think that would be OK. I've always thought 16 inch is the perfect rim size for most cars, though for some reason they don't seem all that popular right now. You will want to put a dual exhaust on it, but don't get super loud mufflers as they will detract from the stealthyness and sleeperness (if that's even a word) that you are no doubt going for. Don't put the hood scoops on. They are not needed and will just look tacky. You might want to consider getting new rear springs as the ones that are on it will probably be shot. These cars always tended to scrape the rear end on the ground when going over uneven surfaces. I suggest getting new leaf springs that will raise the rear about 1/2 to 1 inch, but no more. It seems to me that most of these boats have air shocks, which I guess is OK since they let you adjust the ride height according to the look you're going for or the amount of people/freight you're carrying. Don't jack the rear way up in the air. It will mess up the alignment, look stupid, and perhaps be a safety hazard if anyone was to rear-end you (they would go right under your car and probably rip out the fuel tank). Good luck!!!!
any specific brand of tire that you may recommend?
 
You still havent said if youve got it out of the field yet. First thing I would do is get it out on dry land and check to see underneath, if it rolls, stops, steers. The body looks solid though. Before making it a hot rod, make it a driver first.
 
You still havent said if youve got it out of the field yet. First thing I would do is get it out on dry land and check to see underneath, if it rolls, stops, steers. The body looks solid though. Before making it a hot rod, make it a driver first.
it rolls and steers, break pads are literally dust. that's how it was pushed out of its old garage
 
Tires would be your preference. I don't prefer any particular brand. Just don't get the cheapest thing you can find since they probably won't be very good for handling and won't last long.
 
Tire brands will be limited due to the 15" and especially 14" wheel diameter. Even then cheapest tires have to meet the same quality and performance standards as the most expensive tires sold in the USA. Head down to the closest Discount Tire and see what they can offer. Aim for their "mid-line" price tire, usually. That'll be good enough to get the car road-worthy. Worry about the fancier tires later. Plan on having them on the car for about 3 years, hopefully, so no need for tires with a tread wear rating of "700" when "300" can do just as well . . . in this situation. Look closer at the braking rating instead.

CBODY67
 
I am all for performance upgrades, as long as they start with brakes, suspension and steering. Then sort out the drive line for safe reliable use. The car will feel faster and be faster with a great handling suspension and brake system. After that build a good low rpm torque engine, 1000 to 5000 RPM. An old school Moonshine runner build would go along way with that car. No scoops, or bigger than 15" wheels.
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Debbie Downer here, I apologize in advance. It currently has a Corvette engine that was damaged in a flood? So the rest of the car has flood damage? Because from that one picture it looks like a parts car.

So you're going to throw a five thousand plus dollar crate engine in a rusty, flood damaged sedan that's going to need brakes, interior, paint, pretty much everything. That doesn't seem like a good idea when you could get a running, driving car that would meet your criteria, or be a better base for the cost of the crate engine alone.

If this car has sentimental value than I can appreciate that. If you're eager to get wrenching, try finding a running 383 or 440 locally and go to work!
 
Debbie Downer here, I apologize in advance. It currently has a Corvette engine that was damaged in a flood? So the rest of the car has flood damage? Because from that one picture it looks like a parts car.

So you're going to throw a five thousand plus dollar crate engine in a rusty, flood damaged sedan that's going to need brakes, interior, paint, pretty much everything. That doesn't seem like a good idea when you could get a running, driving car that would meet your criteria, or be a better base for the cost of the crate engine alone.

If this car has sentimental value than I can appreciate that. If you're eager to get wrenching, try finding a running 383 or 440 locally and go to work!
it was never a parts car, it still has everything on it. and I'm not buying a new one, because that's my moms car that she wants me to have and get running. my family is well known to get things running that seem impossible. I alone can work miracles, in fact, I just started learning how to work on cars, the neighbor sold me a car that was sitting in the weather for 8+ years, that's not only my daily, but its also my current show car. sorry if I seem agitated, it just irritates me when someone tells me to get rid of my cars and get a new one, especially ones with sentimental value.
 
Give us a pic of that engine bay with a vette motor in it.. Curious to see that. As far as you know, was there a lot of modification done to make it fit? I assume there is a GM TH-something behind it as well?
 
Give us a pic of that engine bay with a vette motor in it.. Curious to see that. As far as you know, was there a lot of modification done to make it fit? I assume there is a GM TH-something behind it as well?
my mother was the one who told me about the swap, when we moved the car out of the garage it was in, we couldn't pop the hood because the latch hook was rust welded. so when I actually go up to Oklahoma to get it I surely will send pictures
 
What I meant by saying it looks like a parts car was that it appears neglected and would take an awful lot of work to get road worthy and presentable. Who's telling you to get rid of it? If it has sentimental value, which apparently it does, don't listen to them.

You say "that's my mom's car that she wants me to have and get running." But do you really want it? My dad wanted me to have and get running his 1969 VW westfalia. We had lots of good times camping in it when I was a kid so the sentimental value was high. However as a teenager I really had no interest in it, didn't even bother trying to get it running. All it needed was a battery and a starter, oh and lots of rust repair. I jumped at an offer from one of my friends, a straight trade for a 1969 Cadillac hearse running and driving, oh and lots of rust. No brainer.
 
yes!!! I don't car how long it takes!! my dream car is a 2008 Corvette, but if you get your dream car within a short time, you have no life goal. therefore nothing to aim for. so I'm going to start here
 
Post again when you get the car out of the field, washed, and have the opportunity to see how bad the underside actually is. Don't get ahead of yourself.
 
It's your car, do what you want with it.

I started out with a turd. 73 Newport 4 door sedan, doggy doodoo brown, absolutely no one wanted it. I was the last one standing between it and a crusher, I saw potential when everyone else saw a turd. I gave it a musclecar makeover. Now it turns heads everywhere I drive it. No hood scoops, fins or spoilers, but with headers, glass packs and a nice cam (aftermarket clone of the infamous "purple" camshaft"), it has that distinct loopy rumble of a true musclecar that cannot be ignored. A couple days with a buffer and rubbing compound brought back the shine of the lead based paint, an afternoon applying roll on bed liner paint for that 2 tone look, Magnum 500 rims, tinted windows, blacked out headlamp and grill bezels and lots of under hood bling elevate its status far beyond a sedate sedan or a grandma grocery getter. It can and has been done before and could be done again.

And that elastomeric bed liner paint can hide a multitude of sins too, like rust, bondo, & poor hack-n-pack bodywork skills.
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