Carlisle 2021

polara71 said:
Did you get a price from the guy?
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The owner told me Herb McCandless came over and was told $38K and Herb said he has to ask at least $40K.

Did you see the clear plastic casket in the back that holds his business cards? Those are urns he sells with the logos on them. Talk about hard core.

He owned a funeral home and saw this car in Georgia. It disappeared then he saw it again 2 years later and that's when he bought it. Really nice guy, like everyone I always chat with at Carlisle.
 
12PACK said:
The owner told me Herb McCandless came over and was told $38K and Herb said he has to ask at least $40K.

Did you see the clear plastic casket in the back that holds his business cards? Those are urns he sells with the logos on them. Talk about hard core.

He owned a funeral home and saw this car in Georgia. It disappeared then he saw it again 2 years later and that's when he bought it. Really nice guy, like everyone I always chat with at Carlisle.
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My dad gave me all the information except the price. It certainly is unique.

38 to 40? Someone sure is splitting hairs especially on an asking price.

Thank you for the information..
 
2,926 show cars at Carlisle 2021

20% off Carlisle 2022

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71Polara383 said:
But they haven't been given a class dedicated to their model. 300 - Imps have that option.

I dont come to win. But if I ever decided to actually try to win, this is an actual issue Carlisle should attempt to resolve.

Eliminate the 300/Imperial class all together or expand the C body class by Make. At the bare minimum, move the classes closer together, and we can ***** about it in person.
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My take in the situation, not that I care too much, is that its fine to park 300s & Imperials with the other C-bodies if thats where you want to be and hang out with friends. Nobody is policing the show grounds to make sure cars are where they are supposed to be and nobody is going to tell you you need to move.

BUT at least fill out your registration for the proper class you belong in is simple enough to do. When people vote iirc they can put your car in the right class just by the sheet in the window.
 
It was awesome meeting up with all of you as usual. Unfortunately missed the group picture but I spend about 85% of the weekend rummaging through the swap meet looking for treasures!
 
c-barge said:
It was awesome meeting up with all of you as usual. Unfortunately missed the group picture but I spend about 85% of the weekend rummaging through the swap meet looking for treasures!
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Me too. My step counter said I walked 3 1/2 miles Saturday never walked the E or B bodies, trucks, Jeeps, metrics or car corral, spending most of the time cruising the vendor swap area.
 
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Friday was my highest step count of the show. I helped a buddy find a lot of treasures for the ‘69 Roadrunner that he’s working on, including a really nice bench seat for $75! I got in almost 8 miles between the swap meet and looking at cars! Love this show!!!
 
It's Already been a week since Carlisle and I can honestly say I miss it like crazy. I can't believe how much fun I have there. I get so sad knowing when the day is up, I won't get to be there again til next year. I went friday and saturday and that still wasn't enough time.
 
sixpkrt said:
Being my 2nd time at Carlisle, and knowing the cars and crowds were going to be much bigger than last year, I didn’t expect to win anything. The show by itself, along with the specialty displays, the people and the variety of rides they bring to Carlisle is amazing. Searching through all the new and used parts venders’ booths, and finding that hard to find item in the swap area to bring home is has more value to me than an award.

It’s hard to see everything in just a few days. Being able to try to get do as much as possible is more important to me than hoping to receive an award. However, receiving the 2nd place plaque, getting chased down by Lou Costabile to do a YouTube shoot, and having Herb “Mr. 4-Speed” McCandless pull up with his wife on a golf cart to come look at the 69 Imperial caught me by surprise. View attachment 474894
Before leaving, Herb gave me his business card where he wrote his cell number on the back, he hopped back on the cart with his wife, drove a few feet then stopped and turned around to say “Don’t sell my car”. It was quite humbling, and I never expected any of this.

When I completed the registration forms Thursday morning, the woman asked me if it was a C body, and I replied, yes, it is. (Mmmmm, should I’ve had said “Y” Body?) Even though I listed it as a 1969 Imperial Lebaron on the registration forms that were completed, she gave me the assigned show field parking as G212. The only other car I remember seeing in the C body section when I got there was the guy with the green 72 New Yorker 4 door who took 1st Place. After seeing all the other cars that were there on Saturday when the votes were taken, there were plenty of cars that were more deserving of an award.

Truth of the matter, I was more concerned whether on not I was going to have to have the Imperial towed back to Illinois considering to problems that had developed on the drive to PA. After having to purchase a new battery in Murrysville, PA, Scott an I realized the charging problems was draining the battery, but it didn’t deter us from continuing on.

Later on coming down one of the hills in PA, the front right brake began to drag badly, and sounded as though it was metal on metal when coming to a stop. We made it to the Homewood suites and began searching for auto parts stores on our phones. The rain on Wednesday slowed down our trip. The next day, the rain didn’t let up, I decided to leave the car on the show field Thursday night because of the drivability/brake issues and continued charging problems.

We ran into Josh @cuda hunter on Thursday, who was on a mad hunt for side scoops for his cuda. He carted us around after leaving the fairgrounds. We stopped at a restaurant in New Cumberland where we all met up with some of his E body friends for food & drinks. On Friday while back at the fairgrounds I was talking with David Hill, where he mentioned the hotel he had booked for the weekend had given his room away to someone else. Turns out he had a place to crash, as the place I had reserved had 2 beds & a pull out couch bed, so he bunked with me & Scott for the rest of our stay. Wyatt had a change of plans and couldn’t make it to Carlisle this year, so the extra spot was available.

On Friday we left the show field a little earlier, knowing more rain was in the forecast. I’m still contacting people about getting the car towed back to IL, just in case the car was beyond repair. Lucked out completely finding the Budd brake pads and a voltage regulator at Craig’s @mobileparts booth.

While still on the field with the hood up, Sam, a fella from Ft Wayne, IN and John @Big_John helped with diagnosis on the charging, to get us “hot” again. (John had it figured out right away…Thank you) All That was needed was some electrical wire, so a new hunt began back in the vender’s area. After finding some wire and retuning to the car, David @david hill ran the wires from the alternator to the battery, and we were charging.

With the electrical problem remedied, we slowly drove back to the hotel to address the brakes. As soon as the front right wheel was removed, one of the brake pads fell to the pavement. Just the metal backing plate was there. The asbestos pad was gone. Not good, but I had already bought the pads from Craig, so we should be fine. Not so fast…When removing the caliper, a rusted brake line broke. David & I jumped in his 300 vert and headed to a local auto parts store for some brake line, brake fluid and a flaring tool while Scott continued to work on the front end.

David got the line fixed and the pads to fit after spending some time getting the 4 pistons pushed in just enough to evenly put the pads in the caliper and over the rotor. Both rotors will need to be replaced soon, but I’ll never find them as they just don’t exist anymore, so it looks like a 73 disc conversion will be in this cars future. A huge Thanks goes out to David & Scott for everything!!

All in all, it wasn't complete panic mode this weekend with the Imperial, even though I had my doubts a few times. Everyday we walked the field, we got to meet many FCBO members, all of whom had no problem letting us drink their beers while stoppin to say hi. Jeff @cantflip and Will @bluefury361 had some cold ones at their swap tent, as did @Ripinator who luckily was parked close to us. Rip invited Scott, David & I to join him & @Trace 300 Hurst to join them for dinner too, which turned out to be just as fun. Good times indeed! On other trips back around the swap area by Jeff & Will we ran into @Samplingman and @mdh157 . Hoping to meet Jer but didn't get to see @BIGBARNEYCARS , but earlier pics in this thread prove he was there. Wanted to meet Bob @1978 NYB , but about the time you were pulling in in your Redeye, I was leaving for the YT video thing with Lou. I got stuck there for over an hour, as he did another video with a guy from Michigan who drove the Carlisle to have him do a video on his T-Bird. I was stuck as I was Lou's ride back to the fairgrounds.
View attachment 474903 Hopefully next year you're doing better and are able to stay longer.
Walked the car coral to see the what the fuss was with the NYer Michel @ayilar had discussed. It was no were to be found when I got there, so maybe it sold. Surely all the codes will be shared in another thread (maybe this one) by our coder, Michel.
This Fury in the car coral that drew my attention...
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One other forward look car that I had to go back to look at a few times was at the McCandless tent area...
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Some convertibles that show well...
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I took a lot of pictures, but I believe most have already been posted.
The trip to Carlisle annually is definitely worth the experience. It's never the same, and anyone who goes will always be in for a good time.
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sixpkrt,

A couple of things:

1) Your 69 Imperial is a C body...albeit a stretched C...from the firewall back most of the body shell from your car could swap with any other Chrysler Coupe...so you were "in the right class" so to speak. If I ever get my sorry butt to Carlisle with my Imperial I'll probably park with the C bodies because that's where I'd want to be. Y is the car line for Imperial, just like C for Chrysler, D for Dodge etc

2) A 73 style swap won't work in the conventional sense (unless it's from another Imperial) because the Imperial used different ball joints etc. Budd rotors are available..they are actually re-popped...pricey, but probably way cheaper than a swap...hey, at least you can get them:

Disc Brake Rotor for 1966-1969 MoPar C-Body & Imperial | eBay

Hopefully this will help keep your beautiful Imperial cruising the roads!
 
Mr C said:
sixpkrt,

A couple of things:

1) Your 69 Imperial is a C body...albeit a stretched C...from the firewall back most of the body shell from your car could swap with any other Chrysler Coupe...so you were "in the right class" so to speak. If I ever get my sorry butt to Carlisle with my Imperial I'll probably park with the C bodies because that's where I'd want to be. Y is the car line for Imperial, just like C for Chrysler, D for Dodge etc

2) A 73 style swap won't work in the conventional sense (unless it's from another Imperial) because the Imperial used different ball joints etc. Budd rotors are available..they are actually re-popped...pricey, but probably way cheaper than a swap...hey, at least you can get them:

Disc Brake Rotor for 1966-1969 MoPar C-Body & Imperial | eBay

Hopefully this will help keep your beautiful Imperial cruising the roads!
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How are those rotors correct for a 5x4 1/2" and 5x5" bolt pattern?
 
LocuMob said:
How are those rotors correct for a 5x4 1/2" and 5x5" bolt pattern?
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The Budd rotors bolt to the hub that goes on the spindle. The hub came in C body or Imperial flavours (and gave the bolt circle). The rotors were the same bolt circle regardless of hub.

Here's a pic of the hub& rotor together:
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And with the hub removed ready to bolt on the new rotor:
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Mr C said:
The Budd rotors bolt to the hub that goes on the spindle. The hub came in C body or Imperial flavours (and gave the bolt circle). The rotors were the same bolt circle regardless of hub.

Here's a pic of the hub& rotor together:
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And with the hub removed ready to bolt on the new rotor:
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That's what I thought, but I didn't look at the hub when we were working on the car.
 
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Thanks for the info on the rotors @Mr C .
Keeping the Budd brakes would be my 1st choice, but I didn't think the rotors were available any longer. You just made my day!
 
This was when Carlisle did the "burnout contest". This pic was in one of the Mopar magazines.

Bruce at the wheel with @march 's wife in the passenger seat. Note Purple Heart NY plate. Bruce was wounded in Viet Nam.

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If anyone's interested, found the rest of those 2003 photos in an old e-mail:
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