First cam swap

67fury3kidd

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Hidwy folks, I'm looking to do a cam swap in my 67 Plymouth fury 3 and i know abosloutly nothing about measuring the right kind of cam. I would need for my goal so I'll try to give as mutch info as I can withought sounding like a compleetle idiot. I want a mild street/strip cam that i can run stock lifters, pushrods, and rockers. The engine is a 383 I have 915 cast heads (I know 906 heads are better but 915 is what I have) and its a 65 block currently running it with a eldebrock performer intake Carter carb (so basically an eldebrock) and short tube headers and a 2" exhaust. Any advice wpuld be greatly appreciated please and thank you
 
Pre 68 you will have to buy push rods. The lower tip is smaller radius, to fit the commonly available 68 up style lifters you need 68 up stock replacements for 383/400 B engine.
The 2" crap exhaust is killing anything your gaining from the headers.
You most likely have 516 castings but never say never if your build date is late enough they may have been in parts dump, either is fine for what your doing. Use a 440 resto cam unless your changing parts in the rest of the drive line.
 
The heads are fine. Exhaust is fine. You will need to replace the valve springs, and I would replace the valve seals at the same time. Expect to replace the timing set and timing cover seal too. My parts list:
Timing cover set (gaskets)
Valley pan
valve cover gaskets
Valve seals
Acid brush
telescoping magnet
Timing set (I like Summit brand billet roller, but most any performance set will be an improvement)
Camshaft and lifter set (I'd recommend a Comp XE262
Valve springs (Comp 911-16s for that cam)
Push rods (any stock for 68-up 383/400)
Crane "Driven" assembly grease (break in lube)

Hints -
1. Install the camshaft dry with the timing set. Spray lifter bases with WD40 and drop in place, marking the lifter and edge of the bore with a marker. Then turn the engine over clockwise using a socket on the crank bolt. Make sure each lifter rotates in its bore. If one doesn't, swap them around until they all do. Then remove the lifters and use an acid brush to apply the Crane grease to the lifter lobes. I do this through the valley, but you could also remove the camshaft and apply it that way if you wanted to.
2. use a length of clothes line rope to feed into the spark plug hole with the piston at bottom dead center. Make sure to leave 4-5" hanging out of the spark plug hole. Then bring the piston up to TDC until you feel the crank stop. Then take a hammer and tap the retainer's edge. Then use the spring compressor to compress the spring and remove it. Replace the valve seal, and install a new spring over it.
3. Make sure you use something small to fill the carburetor before you fire it back up. I use the top of a spray paint can, squeezed to make a little spout. You do not want to turn the engine with the starter to draw fuel up. Prime the carb manually so it fires instantly.
4. Make sure you leave a little room in the top of the radiator to allow a little burping. The engine won't run hot, and you want to ensure it can start and run at 1900-2500 for 20 minutes without stopping to break the cam in.

Edit - a service manual should be gotten too. If you want to really "do it right" research degreeing your new cam... Comps are usually pretty good and the cam is mild so there's less need to worry about it, but that is the "right way" to put in an aftermarket camshaft.
 
I concur, the 440/375 cam would work nicely. The closed chamber heads are fine, as the later orientations went more to mixture turbulence than the perceived better breaching of the open chamber heads. Adding the 1.74 exhaust valves to your existing heads, plus some bronze helicoil valve guides will put them close enough to 906s, I suspect. Why not start with some used 906s? With a main difference being the larger exhaust valves, IF you also want to put hard seats in the heads, pretty much the same place when you're done if you upgrade your existing heads. Plus, you'll have to pay for the 906s. Clean up the casting flash in your existing heads, port match the intake, and you're done. The ONE real, verifiable benefit of the 906s, with your engine, would be to lower the compression ratio so that normally-available fuels can be used without really needing the more expensive super unleaded fuels.

Of course, matching valve springs will be necessary. With the heads off, that's the best time to do it. As the lift of the cam is should be within the range of a stock HP cam for your model year, you might can delay this. Might do pretty well anyway, but the existing springs will need some checking, so might as well replace them as you'll have to remove the old ones anyway, to do the checks.

To me, ONE reason to use a stock-based cam is the lobe separation of about 114 degrees. This ensures a nice idle with plenty of manifold vacuum at idle. When I put in a cam with 110 degrees LSA, I had to redo the distributor advance curve just to get it to run as expected. Had to play with the idle speed/mixture to get it to idle decently in gear with the a/c on, too. NOT
plug-n-play as expected. Took a bit more to make it work, which was unexpected. Comp is a good brand that's been around for a good while, but some claim they don't use Chrysler-size lobes, but adapted Chevy-style lobes, if that matters (at least that's what Hughes Cams claim).

Aim for a 2.25 or 2.50" exhaust system, with some Street Hemi-spec mufflers. On the C-bodies, make that ;'72 Imperial mufflers (same C-body size case as the stock mufflers with the internal restriction of the smaller Street Hemi OEM mufflers), to which you'll need to match the 2.5" pipe size, inlet and outlet.

When doing the swap, do NOT scrimp on cam lobe, valve lifter lube coatings, lube on EVERY moving part, period! Top to bottom.

If you don't already have a roller timing chain, either the Mopar Performance item or the Cloyes Plus Roller are good choices. The Cloyes chain kit went well past 400K miles in one of my daily driver cars. BUT when I put it in, I used the cam pre-lube moly paste on the surface that contacts the engine block, poured the GM EOS (pint, at that time) over the sprockets and chain, too. Those items get lubes by "splash", so they needed some initial help, as the cam
lobes do.

Take your time, follow the FSM, especially when torqueing down the rocker shafts.

There are some people who have their own little tricks and such, which are things they've determined that worked for them. Nothing wrong with that and it is to be expected. Just arm yourself with the base knowledge of what the FSM had in it Proceed with that base knowledge and you can investigate the other knowledge as you might desire. It took me several weeks to get enough courage to do a cam/intake/carb swap on my '77 Camaro, but I did it. I did need more help in the final lifter adjustments, though. That was at 92K miles and it was still going good when we pulled it out and put a 350 in at about 550K miles. Had to replace all of the freeze plugs anyway, with the 350 having been built years earlier, as a planned upgrade that kept getting put off. BTAIM

Enjoy!
CBODY67
 
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Check out this cam from Summit ...it's going in my 440 this spring.Plus 1 on the "Driven" lube.I went with COMP Cams engine break-in oil 1590 and will use Valvoline VR1 10W-30 after that.

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