For those of you as sick of winter as I...

That property in AZ would be a nice place to retire, as long as you can adjust to the dry heat. The 10 spaces of indoor parking, the shop, storage trailer, pool and all that additional space, how can you go wrong?
Having grass is nice, but you wouldn't have to worry about cutting it anymore with that place.
BTW, our weather in the Chicago area isn't much better than yours....
Please end!!!
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Tuszon less crowded than Phoenix, not shake'en bake summer yet.

All true, but if you aren't staying the summer, you want maximum heat. That's kinda why I could never justify a place that nice in AZ.

A wise person once told me to think about how quick you get cooled down just by walking into AC on a hot day. If you're freezing, walking into a warm house isn't that impressive.

But truth is, as much as winter/spring sucks in MI, there are many things I like here as well. My dream is to be able to do both.
 
My brother and his family used to live in Tucson. We visited in June of 2014.
When we got there, the first thing I asked was "Where the hell is your tan?" They said they stay inside most of the time because of the heat.
The daytime temps hit 105/110 every day while we were there.
They didn't have AC, but something called a swamp cooler. IMO that didn't do the job.
I would still need 4 seasons too, but somewhere where the winters aren't as bad as here, and where the winter season doesn't last as long.
 
Nice place. And nice weather too!

I've been there in the summer. Once in 1970 and pretty much passed out on a tennis court at 9:30 am. More times between 2008-2012 when my father lived in Surprise. The summers are miserable seeing as how I don't like temps above 85 much less 105 by 10:00 am.
 
My brother and his family used to live in Tucson. We visited in June of 2014.
When we got there, the first thing I asked was "Where the hell is your tan?" They said they stay inside most of the time because of the heat.
The daytime temps hit 105/110 every day while we were there.
They didn't have AC, but something called a swamp cooler. IMO that didn't do the job.
I would still need 4 seasons too, but somewhere where the winters aren't as bad as here, and where the winter season doesn't last as long.
I'm thinking TN or western NC.
 
Just think how much redoing that shitty tile job is going to cost. Great kitchen and fugg up the tile. meh.
 
I've been there in the summer. Once in 1970 and pretty much passed out on a tennis court at 9:30 am. More times between 2008-2012 when my father lived in Surprise. The summers are miserable seeing as how I don't like temps above 85 much less 105 by 10:00 am.

Those three very hot months are for population control. Without them so many people would move here it would look like Singapore or Beijing or Calcutta. We'd all be on top of each other wearing masks for all the pollution. As it is almost 100,000 people a year move here in spite of the heat.
 
Those three very hot months are for population control. Without them so many people would move here it would look like Singapore or Beijing or Calcutta. We'd all be on top of each other wearing masks for all the pollution. As it is almost 100,000 people a year move here in spite of the heat.

Too late as you have already been discovered. The Phoenix of today is a very, very, very far cry from what it was in 1970.
 
Those three very hot months are for population control. Without them so many people would move here it would look like Singapore or Beijing or Calcutta. We'd all be on top of each other wearing masks for all the pollution. As it is almost 100,000 people a year move here in spite of the heat.

You're right about that! Sometimes I hesitate to even mention stuff out there.

And it's also not even the Phoenix of 1999-2003 when I was there. But what can you do?
 
Too late as you have already been discovered. The Phoenix of today is a very, very, very far cry from what it was in 1970.
Yes Phonix had been growing too fast for half a century or more. My point being without the extreme summer heat it would be much worse.
 
Yes Phonix had been growing too fast for half a century or more. My point being without the extreme summer heat it would be much worse.

Yeah, like California! I am glad so many on this site hate us so much.

For me, no other place I would rather live, despite the traffic.
 
Yes Phonix had been growing too fast for half a century or more. My point being without the extreme summer heat it would be much worse.

I knew that was your point. Your major problem is that so many people moved to Phoenix from states like the upper Midwest or the East Coast and tried to bring along their environment also. When there in 1970 a lawn was pretty much unheard of in Phoenix. While the place was hot it was a clean dry climate. Clean is gone. Not as dry as it once was. Pollen issues when there never was in the past. It is a shame as I liked it better back then and could say the same about Las Vegas of today.
 
I knew that was your point. Your major problem is that so many people moved to Phoenix from states like the upper Midwest or the East Coast and tried to bring along their environment also. When there in 1970 a lawn was pretty much unheard of in Phoenix. While the place was hot it was a clean dry climate. Clean is gone. Not as dry as it once was. Pollen issues when there never was in the past. It is a shame as I liked it better back then and could say the same about Las Vegas of today.

Unfortunately I don't think there is anywhere on our planet that is better now than 50 years ago.
 
Unfortunately I don't think there is anywhere on our planet that is better now than 50 years ago.

Agree, except that in California, especially Los Angeles, the smog was brutal 50 years ago. It was horrible. But their emission standards for cars and industry has pretty much fixed that issue.
 
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