WANTED Front Drum Spindles 1968 Town & Country
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I have the drum spindles off my 66' 300, if they would work. Still in great shape 70,000 miles on it them. Shipping from Ohio.
Those would work just fine.
Wollfen
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I have a pair of spindles out of a 68 Newport if the 66 units don't work.
68plymouth383
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I sent you a pm. I have a good used pair
twostick
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Unless Wilwood has stepped up their product line to include 5000lb + C-Body wagons, I would seriously reconsider that change. The rotors are way under size for that application unless they have added new 12" 1.25" thick vented one to the lineup.
Kevin
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I agree with the above. Find a set of 69 - 72 C body disc brake rotors and they'll work with the 65-68 drum brake spindles. You'll also need the 65-72 drum brake lower ball joints. Use a 65-68 disc booster and a 69 disc master and you'll stop beautifully.
If your existing Budd disc brake calipers and lower ball joints are good there are people who will buy them as they're hard to find.
If your existing Budd disc brake calipers and lower ball joints are good there are people who will buy them as they're hard to find.
chaparral2f
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I guess I will need a set '69-72 calipers as well correct? My rebuilt '68 4 piston caliper will not work am I correct on this also?
Correct. However, if your original disc system functions well, why change it? Its' performance is exceptional.
chaparral2f
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They are not working, the rotors are shot and the ones I have found are nearly the price of the Wildwood conversion.
Ahh. OK, then without a doubt, get a 69 - 72 disc brake setup from a donor car. You already have right booster AND dual res master cylinder which is a total bonus. All you need are 65-72 drum brake spindles and lower ball joints, and the appropriate rotor bearings etc.
The performance is excellent, it's cheaper than and better engineered in my opinion than aftermarket systems and is easy to service.
Look for my threads on disc conversions for a detailed setup. Does your car have autopilot? (Edit - never mind - I am used to dealing with dual res master conversions on 65-66 Autopilot equipped cars. On yours it wouldn't matter as the clearance issue was already dealt with by the factory.)
The performance is excellent, it's cheaper than and better engineered in my opinion than aftermarket systems and is easy to service.
Look for my threads on disc conversions for a detailed setup. Does your car have autopilot? (Edit - never mind - I am used to dealing with dual res master conversions on 65-66 Autopilot equipped cars. On yours it wouldn't matter as the clearance issue was already dealt with by the factory.)
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Wollfen
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Whats wrong with using a 73 disk brake setup? Plus how do you make the drum brake spindles work? What do the calipers bolt to?
There is nothing wrong with the 73 spindles - they're just more difficult to find. Rotors are 73 and up only though. 69 - 72 rotors don't work on 73 spindles. There was apparently a factory upgrade to the rotor and bearing. 73 rotors interchange up into the 80s with Dodge vans etc so 73 and up rotors are actually a bit easier to source new. Note that the spindle geometry changed for 74 so those spindles do not work in 65 - 73 cars.
Calipers and backing plates bolt right up to the drum spindles - this is what makes the swap a no brainer... spindle hardware attachment points are identical 65 - 68 drums or 69 - 72 disc OR drums.
Calipers and backing plates bolt right up to the drum spindles - this is what makes the swap a no brainer... spindle hardware attachment points are identical 65 - 68 drums or 69 - 72 disc OR drums.
Wollfen
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Hogwash.
Care to clarify please Wollfen? If my info is incorrect I'd certainly like to know so I don't give people wrong info. 
Wollfen
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Disk brake spindles have two bolt holes to the rear of the spindle as the drum spindles have all four holes in a basically square pattern evenly spaced front and back, check the pics for what I mean, you can see they are different.Care to clarify please Wollfen? If my info is incorrect I'd certainly like to know so I don't give people wrong info.
Cool... how was I able to bolt the 1970 disc hardware stuff to my drum spindles on two cars? Are the two rear holes on the drum spindle spaced the same then?
Wollfen
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The lower picture is of the drum spindle, the two lower holes are for the ball joint with the upper holes for the backing plate. In the upper picture you will see the caliper bolts to one side only and there are no holes on the other side.
If you have converted yours and still have possession of the car, I would love to see pics of it to see what you have done.
If you have converted yours and still have possession of the car, I would love to see pics of it to see what you have done.
I'll see when I return from holidays if I can shoot pics of my disc setup. I admit that I may be remembering incorrectly... and it may be that the later 69 -72 disc spindles fit in the same geometry as the 65 - 68 drum spindles...
twostick
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Disc spindles are different as the pics show but they are a bolt in swap for drum spindles.
Late 72 and 73 spindles take the large bearing rotors but the calipers and other parts are the same as 69-early 72.
Kevin
Late 72 and 73 spindles take the large bearing rotors but the calipers and other parts are the same as 69-early 72.
Kevin
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