Looking for a good floor jack

I don't use jack stands for oil changes but then again I don't use a jack, these cars are high enough you can do an oil change without the need of extra clearance.


Alan
an oil change alone is more....is it not?

I need a little more room....

Besides I prefer the car to be on a lift so I can can stand up while working on it.
 
Alright fill me in on why the maintenance is more money.
And don't give me some BS about the dealer charging youore to work on a diesel.

Walk into the parts store and buy a Wix oil filter for a SBC and a 5 qt jug of whatever oil is on sale, it all sucks about the same now anyhow, but none of my engines are flat tappets. Every 3 years you need a $10 fuel filter. Every 7 years you need a $150 secondary tuneup and replace the air filter and pcv too just cause (never let the air filter go long enough for the indicator to show anything). Every 3 weeks you fill the 40 gal tank with about 30-35 gal of 87 octane and hope for the best since there are no name brand gas stations left in your area.

Wife's Expedition goes to the dealer for oil changes when the sticker tells her to and she gets around to it, $25. If it goes 3 years in between repairs it will get fuel filter as maintenance, not part of a bigger repair. Both vehicles are running Michelin LTX M/S2 tires which last great and have excellent wet weather handling... they go about 6-7 years before they need replacing... Wagner brakes go about the same. I buy when they're around 10 years old and about 10% sticker price. @2 years in the heater core blew and the wife drove home... so expedition maintenance schedule included HER joining me in the junk yard to pull new/used 2v romeo 4.6l (somebody had to watch the tools and get a little dirty pulling the stuff out + good punishment factor for "I only drove home") that PM service cost close to a grand by the time it was all done, but also got new timing set and ign coils as well as regular stuff. Otherwise it would get a set of single platinum plugs every 70k.

I'm cheap... I look at maintenance part prices when I shop for a driver, and I don't put on enough miles for that stuff to get out of hand. I didn't want the expedition, but the pedals moved and I lost that battle... at least with the 4.6 2v it was cheaper and easier to deal with than a 3v or 5.4 when I had to replace it, which was part of the purchase decision. At 180k miles I didn't feel it was worth even looking inside when she popped the head. Junkyard wrecked Grand Marquis $350 engine solved my problems much easier than pulling from another truck or repairing what I had.

Diesel would cost more to buy Filters for than my "normal" PMs, neither of us pulls the weight to use the extra torque... but we both need the cargo space. Been running the suburban since 2008 and the expedition since 2012. My pickup is strictly short run beater duty and gets used leftovers from the suburban. My old 93 roadmaster was even cheaper than the suburban to keep on the road, I'm thinking about another.

If your pulling the weight, I would go diesel any day. If your burning the miles, there's a lot of ways to go for mileage... like a Honda.
 
So a oil change cost more because more oil and the filter is more but aren't the intervals further apart?
 
You tell me. Always wanted a Diesel but after around 2005 the mileage went down. Everyone I talk to complains about the maintenance costs over gasoline engines. Comparing everything even with the maintenance being the same, when do I benefit from buying a Diesel?
 
Dave you don't keep a truck long enough. You are better off sticking to the disposable trucks. You don't even get to the 16 spark plug change how much are they and how many are in a diesel we already know that a gas motor works for you. Never mind I already know the answer just looking to see if anybody else knew or just heresy.
 
So a oil change cost more because more oil and the filter is more but aren't the intervals further apart?
Yes they are, 12K for my 2012 but I change at 6K and my cars at 3K....because I'm anal. Cars take 5 1/2 to 6 Quarts, truck takes 12 quarts. Other then small diff in oil filter, it's a wash.
 
You tell me. Always wanted a Diesel but after around 2005 the mileage went down. Everyone I talk to complains about the maintenance costs over gasoline engines. Comparing everything even with the maintenance being the same, when do I benefit from buying a Diesel?
The more miles you put on them the better the mileage gets. When I crossed 40K my mileage gradually went from 13 to 17/18 mpg. My bother's 2012 Ford gets about 22 but he has around 70K on his. MUCH better then my 98 360 that was consistent at 13. I use mine to tow equipment, and utility trailers and haul wood and building materials in the back and on the trailers. I also tow hay wagons. Occasionally I will borrow my brother's 31 foot travel trailer. If you don't need one, I agree that they are too expensive for a toy but if you use it, it can't be beat and as I said, I'll never go back to gas.
 
Dave you don't keep a truck long enough. You are better off sticking to the disposable trucks. You don't even get to the 16 spark plug change how much are they and how many are in a diesel we already know that a gas motor works for you. Never mind I already know the answer just looking to see if anybody else knew or just heresy.

Sorry you feel that way Dave, my 2001 I had 80000 miles, my 2005 I had for 50000. Granted, the 2013 I only kept for 24000 because the perfect truck for me became available.

So, define a disposable truck please. ...
 
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So a oil change cost more because more oil and the filter is more but aren't the intervals further apart?

To be entirely forth right, I last did a diesel pm in a pickup back around 98 30k intervals on Cummins 2v was 3-4 times what it was for a gas model. I don't remember 4v, I didn't touch many of them. Since I did automotive diesels and occasionally buy repair/maintenance pieces from the dealer for fords... I am unable to give current accurate prices at this moment... but could look into it if it matters. For the most part my junk was purchased based on being cheap to own. In 08 the gm ls engine parts were still expensive enough I limited my search to iron block years. I have never had a price on a diesel part that I thought was a bargain, but look at what I drive... its damn near the 80s again for parts prices. BTW ford put a patent on their diesel oil filters and the aftermarket ones cause trouble... google for details... I don't want to misquote.

Not saying I'm wrong, but I'm not currently equipped to defend my position.
Turn it around on me... I would be pleased to hear how cheap a diesel pickup was to buy and maintain... I simply haven't seen anything to convince me yet.
 
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So in theory every car/truck is a throw away

IDK who this directed to. For me, I plan to run my suburban until I can't buy parts for it anymore. My pickup was bought to be disposed of when I no longer needed it. I have no love for the expedition, but it runs great and as long as it serves it purpose... if she wants to upgrade, it goes.

Automobiles were made to be used and replaced. Keeping the ones that you love usually involves limiting their use at some point.
 
So, define a disposable truck please. .
Well I guess they are all disposable. My 98 I would be happy to get $800-1000 for with 125,000 mi a diesel truck with the same rust is a $3000-$4000 all day so I will have to say that a gas engine truck at ten years 10-15 years old is ready to be a parts truck for a diesel model so disposable. Really after 10 years except for younger people on a budget and assholes like myself that don't need a pick up except to get my car to the track, who wants any of them. I am really leaning toward a motor home but that's a whole different story.
 
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