Old men w/hats now stronger than college freshhmen

saforwardlook said:
I heard your complaints, now what are your solutions then?

I also worked while going to college, and I made it - but it was also much more affordable then.

By the way, is Social Security an "entitlement" to you or because one has to pay into it is it maybe something else? That term is used many different ways. But that term, we can both agree probably, does apply to many of today's youth who are pampered by there parents and taught nothing about responsibility and discipline.
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As mentioned, way too many are on gov't checks. I don't consider SS an entitlement. You paid into it, they have sent you a statement ever so often telling you what to expect. I have no problem in helping the needy, the disabled, the elderly. Government spending is crazy. Start trimming the fat. National debt is crazy. The healthcare system is a complete mess. I run credit reports frequently. I no longer reject someone if the have collections from medical or if they have defaulted on their student loan. What I can tell you is that today, in general credit reports that I have seen, many will not pay a co pay or a minimum payment for something they have used, however they all have smart phones, mostly newish cars etc.
 
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saforwardlook said:
Lastly, I will just say that what I truly believe is that the root of all our problems evolve from spiritual emptiness and putting God aside. We reap what we sow.
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Lol. I've joked before that I'm writing a book called "Sports - The New Religion", on that exact topic.
 
commando1 said:
You're all fools if you believe that more than 20% of the adult population can actualy carry on an intelligent conversation on this subject at the level this is being discussed here right now.
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saforwardlook said:
Once again Stan, you are so correct. We are doomed, and the enemy is our own ignorant and lazy selves that refuse to do our own thinking rather than just incoherently parrot the junk we are fed mindlessly by the very people screwing us. Sometimes the outcome of continual success is eventual failure. People are now "entitled" to their own anger and freedom to complain endlessly, without any responsibility to really seek solutions. I am glad I wasn't born any later. Lastly, I will just say that what I truly believe is that the root of all our problems evolve from spiritual emptiness and putting God aside. We reap what we sow.
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Actually, I think 20% is being very optimistic. We no longer have critical thinking and we no longer have common sense.

Pogo said it best.

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commando1 said:
You're all fools if you believe that more than 20% of the adult population can actually carry on an intelligent conversation on this subject at the level this is being discussed here right now.
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IMHO we would be more foolish to squander the opportunity the Founding Fathers gave us by sitting idly by and not exchanging our ideas and viewpoints freely and civilly here on this board or anywhere else...
 
Fratzog said:
republic
  • : a country that is governed by elected representatives and by an elected leader (such as a president) rather than by a king or queen
democracy
  • : a form of government in which people choose leaders by voting
OK I think I'm missing your point...
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From wiki...

Republicanism in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about a political and social philosophy. For the United States political party, see Republican Party (United States).

Republicanism is the guiding political philosophy of the United States. It has been a major part of American civic thought since its founding.[1] It stresses liberty and unalienable individual rights as central values, making people sovereign as a whole, rejects monarchy, aristocracy and inherited political power, expects citizens to be independent in their performance of civic duties, and vilifies corruption.[2] American republicanism was founded and first practiced by the Founding Fathers in the 18th century. For them, according to one team of historians, "republicanism represented more than a particular form of government. It was a way of life, a core ideology, an uncompromising commitment to liberty, and a total rejection of aristocracy."[3]

Republicanism is a type of democracy, but if protected by a Bill of Rights, may be distinguished from other forms of democracy as a Bill of Rights asserts that each individual has unalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters, unless the other type of democracies are also protected by a Bill of Rights.
 
MarPar said:
... may be distinguished from other forms of democracy as a Bill of Rights asserts that each individual has unalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters, unless the other type of democracies are also protected by a Bill of Rights.
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Up here in Canada we are not a republic but have addressed the potential flaw in the above caption by incorporating the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms into our constitution. The down side is we have a bunch of liberal Supreme Court justices determining what is those rights are.
 
Fratzog said:
Up here in Canada we are not a republic but have addressed the potential flaw in the above caption by incorporating the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms into our constitution. The down side is we have a bunch of liberal Supreme Court justices determining what is those rights are.
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well, depending how our election turns out in Nov, we may be in the same boat.

so it sounds like your Charter is akin to our Bill of Rights. but it is not unalienable like ours is.
 
MarPar said:
well, depending how our election turns out in Nov, we may be in the same boat.

so it sounds like your Charter is akin to our Bill of Rights. but it is not unalienable like ours is.
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While technically not "unalienable" practically our constitution is almost impossible to change...
o change the Constitution using the general formula, the change needs to be approved by 1) the federal Parliament, 2) the Senate, and 3) a minimum number of provincial legislatures. There must be at least seven provinces that approve thechange, representing at least 50% of Canada's population.
 
Fratzog said:
I agree with the above (except the bit about divine revelation). I prefer to think for myself, thank you.
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Life is complex and rife with problems and mistakes. I do think for myself, but I also appreciate the guidance of the one who made us if we are convinced he is real, after much evaluation. Mindless obedience to a bunch of rules never works. Thankfully, we are still free to believe and practice our faith or go another way in this country and that is the way it should be. I respect your intellect irregardless.
 
saforwardlook said:
Life is complex and rife with problems and mistakes. I do think for myself, but I also appreciate the guidance of the one who made us if we are convinced he is real, after much evaluation. Mindless obedience to a bunch of rules never works. Thankfully, we are still free to believe and practice our faith or go another way in this country and that is the way it should be. I respect your intellect irregardless.
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You can always be assured of my respect but I remain not "convinced".
 
Fratzog said:
You can always be assured of my respect but I remain not "convinced".
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That is OK, as I felt the same way strongly at one time too. But I decided to really dig into the Bible at one point in my life (44 years ago), and after two years of really trying to find fault all on my own with no one to influence me, I could no longer deny it, and concluded only the creator of the universe could have written it - no man could have. All the best!
 
The recent announcement to the University of Chicago freshmen that they are not entitled to Safety Zones and Trigger Warnings was refreshing news for a change.

If you don't know about the latest campus trends about Safety Zines and Trigger Warnings, I highly suggest you start Googling it. All this pussification has ben encouraged by the liberal academics. They have created the new class of the Professionally Offended.
 
commando1 said:
The recent announcement to the University of Chicago freshmen that they are not entitled to Safety Zones and Trigger Warnings was refreshing news for a change.

If you don't know about the latest campus trends about Safety Zines and Trigger Warnings, I highly suggest you start Googling it. All this pussification has ben encouraged by the liberal academics. They have created the new class of the Professionally Offended.
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Here you go...
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...-need-safe-spaces-to-avoid-scary-free-speech/
U. of C. tells incoming freshmen it does not support 'trigger warnings' or 'safe spaces'
 
Fratzog said:
Here you go...
'Infantilized' College Students Need 'Safe Spaces' to Avoid Scary Free Speech - Breitbart
U. of C. tells incoming freshmen it does not support 'trigger warnings' or 'safe spaces'
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"Judith Shulevitz, writing in the New York Times, reports that infantilized college students are indulging their need for insulation by demanding “safe spaces” where any speech that could hurt their feelings would be forbidden."

The first paragraph summed it up nicely, Fred.

We should have stopped this crap years ago. Little did we know what it would evolve to...
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That's about time that happened. I hope it spreads to others.

We've been fast approaching where there's a scheduled "two minute hate" every morning...
 
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