Joseph James
Senior Member
Pretty good video.
It makes a bit of sense. Home Depot is very scared about the new generations, that they do not really know how to or want to fix things around the home. The new gens might be into cars, but at a different level than the older gens. Most mods for the new gens are more bolt-on or a shop will do it, as Uncle Tony said. I guess they want more weekend mods compared to someone like me and my 3 year restoration plan. I have been waiting for decades to do a car "right" and look forward to it. It's not going to come in an Amazon box on my front porch. But, this may be good for us that have restored the cars - a new market to sell a completed car too someday?????
It makes a bit of sense. Home Depot is very scared about the new generations, that they do not really know how to or want to fix things around the home. The new gens might be into cars, but at a different level than the older gens. Most mods for the new gens are more bolt-on or a shop will do it, as Uncle Tony said. I guess they want more weekend mods compared to someone like me and my 3 year restoration plan. I have been waiting for decades to do a car "right" and look forward to it. It's not going to come in an Amazon box on my front porch. But, this may be good for us that have restored the cars - a new market to sell a completed car too someday?????
I have taught community college classes and had 20 ish year olds who didn’t know what a crescent wrench was. I didn’t give them a hard time. I just assumed they had no dad or uncle or someone around to teach them. So, there is something to be said about Home Depot’s fears.
I may have gotten something different from the video than some of you. Tony said whatever level of depth in the hobby you have is cool. There are plenty of wealthy guys who buy a restored car or pay for someone to do it. I am sure there are young people wrenching or programming modern Mopars.
We are all products of our times. Things change and he may not be noticing because his thing is what was going on in the late 1970s as he has said in previous videos.
I like my Fury a lot. If I could, I would buy a new Challenger. I like em all, just partial to C bodies.
I understand you disagreeing, but Tony DeFeo (Uncle Tony) has been around for a long time. He was one of the guys that started Mopar Action Magazine and one of the other Mopar mags (can't remember right the name right now). He also was one of the first guys to start running the 5.0 Mustang when it was new. IMHO, he's got the credentials to say what he wants, agree or disagree with him. I've read a lot of his work over the years and started watching his You Tube channel when I discovered it.If the guy wants to live in the 70's he should stay there and not make negative remarks about something he very ignorant about. I'm sure a lot of his target audience loves it, but as one of his "targets" I believe he's a bit of a jerk, and worse, not a true Mopar lover.
I understand you disagreeing, but Tony DeFeo (Uncle Tony) has been around for a long time. He was one of the guys that started Mopar Action Magazine and one of the other Mopar mags (can't remember right the name right now). He also was one of the first guys to start running the 5.0 Mustang when it was new. IMHO, he's got the credentials to say what he wants, agree or disagree with him. I've read a lot of his work over the years and started watching his You Tube channel when I discovered it.
I know a lot of older guys with the Metric Challengers. Some are very "hands on" and there are some that let someone else do the work. Personally, the cars don't do anything for me... I kind of understand the following, but I couldn't care less about them. Lot's of guys don't like C bodies either so it's personal taste. As far as shows and cruise nights, I don't care... The more the merrier.
Thank you for the compliment.Big John, I have a lot of respect for your knowledge. I'd hazard you know as much if not more than Uncle Tony.
After reading who "Uncle Tony" is, I do remember the 5.0 Mustang and Mopar action
But, it's not the first time I've debated with a magazine editor or "media guy" about something they thought they understood based on their quick observations, and it probably won't be the last.
It's my belief that ANYONE that's messed with Mopars a long time has "credentials" You have credentials, and so do I. My love for Mopars goes back a long ways. Ok 1968, long before I could drive them. The difference between us and guys like Uncle Tony is that he banged some articles out in Magazines and we didn't. That doesn't given him any more cred in my book. If anything it places him under more scrutiny.
I don't know how many followers he has, nor do I care. But when he makes any statement(s) that can open a wider rift between classic and modern enthusiasts, Then I have to disagree. I know too many of Mopar owners that have both. Most could care less about him and his opinion. MY whole point...don't be sucked into it. Don't become mired in an era. Don't be be your worst enemy. If I were a "media guy" I would do everything I could to promote every kind of Mopar made, except Horizons with the Volkswagen engine.
Thank you for the compliment.
I don't agree with Tony all the time, although I do find his outlook kind of refreshing from a low dollar "let's have some fun" aspect. As far as magazine editors/writers go, I don't put a lot of faith in their abilities or knowledge. A long time ago, I figured out that the article about XYZ headers and how great they are is often followed by a full page ad for XYZ headers, so I take everything they write with a grain of salt. I've also tangled with them a time or two. I met a number of them over the years and some are good guys and some don't impress me. I wanted to point out that he has been around a bit and isn't new on the scene.
I don't subscribe to any of the mags and rarely read them anymore. Too much fluff and the tech stuff isn't what I need.
I watched part of his video again and I'm still in agreement with him. At Carlisle and the places I've been, I don't see the used parts for the newer cars. As Dave just said, maybe he (and I) aren't going where the new parts are. The guys that I know are buying more new "go fast" goodies and then I see guys that are buying "billet" type ad on "appearance" stuff (BTW, I hate billet). But, I didn't take it as a put down of the newer cars, just an observation that there are some differences.
Tony has been doing some different things with the videos. I think he's exploring what works and what doesn't. Lately he's done a couple really basic "how to" videos that I think are needed... He's got a young following that doesn't know how to pack bearings, so he's trying to teach. I do like that.
A couple things that are kind of funny to me though... I've been to the Corvette event at Carlisle a few times and those guys, with the newer Corvette don't buy a lot of used stuff either. What they do have is a lot of "installers" with lifts and the whole nine yards, putting exhaust systems etc. on the newer Corvettes. I even saw tents where they were wet sanding and buffing the cars. This may be the way the Metric Challenger guys are headed... I don't know.
The other thing that's funny is we went through this once before when 60's muscle cars started showing up at shows in the 70's. History is repeating itself.
But, it is good to get the discussion going. The new cars are becoming more and more common on cruises etc. What's really funny is there's a few guys around here that are really upset that they can't bring their newer cars to the giant car show (Syracuse Nationals, 8000+ cars) that's in town this weekend. They have a 35 year old cut off.
Oh... and I kind of liked the VW engined Horizon I had. LOL.
Thank you for the compliment.
I don't agree with Tony all the time, although I do find his outlook kind of refreshing from a low dollar "let's have some fun" aspect. As far as magazine editors/writers go, I don't put a lot of faith in their abilities or knowledge. A long time ago, I figured out that the article about XYZ headers and how great they are is often followed by a full page ad for XYZ headers, so I take everything they write with a grain of salt. I've also tangled with them a time or two. I met a number of them over the years and some are good guys and some don't impress me. I wanted to point out that he has been around a bit and isn't new on the scene.
I don't subscribe to any of the mags and rarely read them anymore. Too much fluff and the tech stuff isn't what I need.
I watched part of his video again and I'm still in agreement with him. At Carlisle and the places I've been, I don't see the used parts for the newer cars. As Dave just said, maybe he (and I) aren't going where the new parts are. The guys that I know are buying more new "go fast" goodies and then I see guys that are buying "billet" type ad on "appearance" stuff (BTW, I hate billet). But, I didn't take it as a put down of the newer cars, just an observation that there are some differences.
Tony has been doing some different things with the videos. I think he's exploring what works and what doesn't. Lately he's done a couple really basic "how to" videos that I think are needed... He's got a young following that doesn't know how to pack bearings, so he's trying to teach. I do like that.
A couple things that are kind of funny to me though... I've been to the Corvette event at Carlisle a few times and those guys, with the newer Corvette don't buy a lot of used stuff either. What they do have is a lot of "installers" with lifts and the whole nine yards, putting exhaust systems etc. on the newer Corvettes. I even saw tents where they were wet sanding and buffing the cars. This may be the way the Metric Challenger guys are headed... I don't know.
The other thing that's funny is we went through this once before when 60's muscle cars started showing up at shows in the 70's. History is repeating itself.
But, it is good to get the discussion going. The new cars are becoming more and more common on cruises etc. What's really funny is there's a few guys around here that are really upset that they can't bring their newer cars to the giant car show (Syracuse Nationals, 8000+ cars) that's in town this weekend. They have a 35 year old cut off.
Oh... and I kind of liked the VW engined Horizon I had. LOL.