Imperial 1971 sleeve and isolator front and rear 13-11-18 part number:2534-984-5

[jet1969]

In the restoration proces of my 1971 Imperial I am replacing dried out rubberparts, I found the rubber "sleeve and isolator" dried out and want to replace them. Does anyone know where I can find them?View attachment 736177
I am looking for:
(In the parts book of Chrysler 1971, I have found these names and codes)
2 x Bracket, w/sleeve and isolator front 13-11-18 part number:2534-984-5
2 x Bracket, w/sleeve and isolator rear 13-11-18 part number:2534-982-4



Thanks in advance
Paul

 

[ayilar]

I checked Arizona Parts, it does not look like @marty mopar has any in stock

Rocket Restorations has bought Deception Pass Auto Parts -- see here and here

@tallzag (Tom) owns RR and may be able to chime in.

 

[tallzag]

Don't see any of those in my inventory.

 

[Boydsdodge]

In the restoration proces of my 1971 Imperial I am replacing dried out rubberparts, I found the rubber "sleeve and isolator" dried out and want to replace them. Does anyone know where I can find them?View attachment 736177
I am looking for:
(In the parts book of Chrysler 1971, I have found these names and codes)
2 x Bracket, w/sleeve and isolator front 13-11-18 part number:2534-984-5
2 x Bracket, w/sleeve and isolator rear 13-11-18 part number:2534-982-4



Thanks in advance
Paul

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I think you will have to find those used, maybe from Demo guys or parts yard like Murray Park or National Moparts.

 

[garyh]

"Rocket Restorations has bought Deception Pass Auto Parts -- see here and here"

Wow Len Dawson is still around, Old School NOS Mopar Parts guy.

 

[vdk2010]

As they are not available anywhere, I asked a friend to make some for me. He 3D-printed a mould and poured them from carbon fibre infused polyurethane (Shore 75).

 

[detmatt]

As they are not available anywhere, I asked a friend to make some for me. He 3D-printed a mould and poured them from carbon fibre infused polyurethane (Shore 75).

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Still have the mold? How much per set?

 

[vdk2010]

Still have the mold? How much per set?

Haven't talked to him for a while, but let me see if I can get the mold or the files to print a new one. I'll get back to you.

 

[jet1969]

Don't see any of those in my inventory.

Thanks for looking. Is there an alternative ? like a reproduction version. Can it be made for instance ?

 

[jet1969]

Haven't talked to him for a while, but let me see if I can get the mold or the files to print a new one. I'll get back to you.

Will sent you an email for these parts Julian!

 

[vdk2010]

Will sent you an email for these parts Julian!

Hi Paul,
I'll reply to your email here, as others may be interested in the response.

I've asked my friend who made my bushings to send me the 3D files for the mould, so that I can create a new one.
I'll keep you updated on what happens.

Unfortunately, I can't provide a full 'kit' containing all the items in my seventh picture.
Most of the items in the picture are parts from my Imperial.

I might be able to make new bushings, but unfortunately I don’t have spares for the other parts.

However, the bolts, nuts and washers are standard hardware items that you can buy online — just make sure you measure your original hardware to ensure the correct fit.

The steel inner bushings (tubes) are just round stock that I ordered online and cut to length. I can look up the dimensions if you would like me to. I had mine nickel-plated, but that’s optional.
As for the brackets themselves, I removed the old rubber and metal sleeves, sandblasted them, and then had them zinc-plated and painted.

 

[jet1969]

Hi Paul,
I'll reply to your email here, as others may be interested in the response.

I've asked my friend who made my bushings to send me the 3D files for the mould, so that I can create a new one.
I'll keep you updated on what happens.

Unfortunately, I can't provide a full 'kit' containing all the items in my seventh picture.
Most of the items in the picture are parts from my Imperial.

I might be able to make new bushings, but unfortunately I don’t have spares for the other parts.

However, the bolts, nuts and washers are standard hardware items that you can buy online — just make sure you measure your original hardware to ensure the correct fit.

The steel inner bushings (tubes) are just round stock that I ordered online and cut to length. I can look up the dimensions if you would like me to. I had mine nickel-plated, but that’s optional.
As for the brackets themselves, I removed the old rubber and metal sleeves, sandblasted them, and then had them zinc-plated and painted.

Thanks . The full kit was more or less out of convenience. The rubberparts are the biggest issue. The nuts bolts and spacers I can order I think (if you have a recommendated site let me know) and for the inner bushings if you have the measurements and the online address would be nice.
Thanks for keeping me posted

 

[vdk2010]

OK, unfortunately, I couldn't get a hold of the guy who made me my bushings a couple of years ago.

I still had a bushing that he had cut apart to check the inside of the bushing, so the best I can do is provide correct measurements.

Since the shape is pretty simple, printing the mold on a 3D printer should be easy. Even ChatGPT should be able to create a decent 3D model of the mold.

A while back, @Zymurgy was big into casting lenses and stuff. Maybe he has some good advice for you guys about the casting process.

 

[vdk2010]

I made the inner bushing from seamless precision tubing with the following dimensions:

OD: 22 mm
ID: 16 mm
Wall thickness: 3 mm

I know, I know; my American fellows have to wrap their brains around these metric measurements, but that's what I used. ;)
You may have to modify everything a little bit to convert to standard sizes.

 

[Zymurgy]

OK, unfortunately, I couldn't get a hold of the guy who made me my bushings a couple of years ago.

I still had a bushing that he had cut apart to check the inside of the bushing, so the best I can do is provide correct measurements.
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Since the shape is pretty simple, printing the mold on a 3D printer should be easy. Even ChatGPT should be able to create a decent 3D model of the mold.

A while back, @Zymurgy was big into casting lenses and stuff. Maybe he has some good advice for you guys about the casting process.

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They should be pretty easy to make a squeeze mold from, much easier than most lenses, no areas where air can get trapped. The key is finding the correct product to make the bushings. The company I use has 3 products made of polyurethane rubber with a shore hardness of 70A, 80A & 90A

 

[Zymurgy]

I found this company who reproduces polyurethane bushings. They have 3 levels of shore hardness. A good reference for potential bushings.

I could make these but I would need 1 original in good shape to make a mold.

Here is another chart giving you a comparison with new and old rubber bushings too.

 

[jet1969]

OK, unfortunately, I couldn't get a hold of the guy who made me my bushings a couple of years ago.

I still had a bushing that he had cut apart to check the inside of the bushing, so the best I can do is provide correct measurements.
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Since the shape is pretty simple, printing the mold on a 3D printer should be easy. Even ChatGPT should be able to create a decent 3D model of the mold.

A while back, @Zymurgy was big into casting lenses and stuff. Maybe he has some good advice for you guys about the casting process.

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OK, unfortunately, I couldn't get a hold of the guy who made me my bushings a couple of years ago.

I still had a bushing that he had cut apart to check the inside of the bushing, so the best I can do is provide correct measurements.
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Since the shape is pretty simple, printing the mold on a 3D printer should be easy. Even ChatGPT should be able to create a decent 3D model of the mold.

A while back, @Zymurgy was big into casting lenses and stuff. Maybe he has some good advice for you guys about the casting process.

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Thanks for all the information. I am going to ask chat GPT to help me out to make a mold…. Fingers crossed

 

[vdk2010]

After talking to Paul and thinking about a good solution, I came up with a 3-piece mold made from Delrin plates. Much better then 3D printed.

You could also make it from wood, but since you have to paint and prep wood, I would use Delrin.
Yes, the initial investment is higher, but other than wood, it will last forever. It won't bend, swell, or deform, and you won't have to paint or prep it.
Just spray the mold with mold release and pour bushings with nice, sharp edges as often as you want.

If someone is interested, I can provide .DXF or .DWG files of the plates a CNC mill will understand.

 

[martymopar]

(In the parts book of Chrysler 1971, I have found these names and codes)
2 x Bracket, w/sleeve and isolator front 13-11-18 part number:2534-984-5
2 x Bracket, w/sleeve and isolator rear 13-11-18 part number:2534-982-4

this was a post on this thread earlier:

2534984 R 2534985 L

2534982-4 is incorrect maybe it should be:
2534982 R 2534983 L

I ran all 4 numbers on a google search and nothing comes up except this thread on the forum