For Sale 1971 Sport Fury GT Vegas CL

[detmatt]

Let's do some figuring here - there IS a reason this car has been for sale for years...gosh, could it be the fact it's OVER-PRICED???

$12,500 - Acquisition price.
$2,000 - Shipping in the US
$10,000 - paint and body (absolute minimum)
$5,000 - Interior
$1,000 - Dash
$10,000 - rechroming/plating
$1,000 - Top
$12,500 - Miscellaeous (brakes, tires, hardware, whatever is not covered above)
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$53,500 - Total restoration costs for a car that would bring $30K tops as a restored vehicle.

Now, how is paying anything more than $4,000 a good deal for this SFGT again???

If a guy were to do a half-assed "restoration" on this, he might get by with $20K for the resto budget; but again, you'd have $32,500 in a car that would be half-assed, and not bring the $32,500 at sale time.

BTW, I don't see any of you guys jumping on this "deal of the century"!

Patrick you just put $42.50 into the car figuring how much you'd be upside down in it and you don't even own it.
you're obviously not the guy for this car but eventually somebody will come along and buy the car because they love it, always wanted one and can't afford a done one. All the while not worrying about the money they'll have to invest in order to restore it. Just like what most of us are doing.

 

[patrick66]

I'm looking for a '69 SF, personally. This '71 would have to be done for the love of the car, as pretty much any "C" is, unless you get into one for an incredibly cheap price. I'm not "worrying" about the money with this one; simply stating basic economics for the guy with star-crossed eyes, Merlot tastes and a Kool-Aid budget. Maybe stating what I did is pissing off a few folks, but hey! Don't post the car, if you are wanting nothing but flowing praises of it. I'm not critical of the car itself, just the crazy price that the seller has been asking of it for a LONG time. $12,500 ain't gonna happen with anyone here, and we are fans of these! Five or six grand might actually result in a sale to someone that has to have a '71 SFGT, regardless of condition and amount of $$$ required to build the car right. I'm all in at two.

 

[bluefury361]

A good example of "rarity does not dictate value".
Only the true blue C body guy will appreciate this car, and well all know how "fruggle" we are.

 

[patrick66]

A good example of "rarity does not dictate value".
Only the true blue C body guy will appreciate this car, and well all know how "fruggle" we are.

The "true-blue '71 Sport Fury GT guy" will appreciate it. At maybe six grand. Maybe.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Samplingman]

PRO's: It's rough but complete. Of course the numbers matching claim has to be verified. AC. Solid floors. Dual snorkel breather, cool as all get out, a plus!

CON's: Ugly-a$$ color. Dented panels. Possible hidden rust. Trashed interior. Doesn't mention if it even runs. Missing hood stripe, possible re-paint, touch-ups. Are we really believing this thing has only 53K? Possible, but unlikely.

You have to really be hot for this one to spend that kind of cash, but I think it is do-able. If it runs, it could be cleaned up and I could see someone buying into this thing with a long-term, fix as you go plan. You really don't need a 40k restoration to enjoy the heck out of it. I'll tell you, as rough as my vert is, I wouldn't dream of putting 40k into it, more like 8k when I'm done. I actually want to drive it and have some fun!

 

[polara71]

I could be mistaken but didn't the SF GT have a large "GT" hood graphic?

I thought that was optional...

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Let's do some figuring here - there IS a reason this car has been for sale for years...gosh, could it be the fact it's OVER-PRICED???

$12,500 - Acquisition price.
$2,000 - Shipping in the US
$10,000 - paint and body (absolute minimum)
$5,000 - Interior
$1,000 - Dash
$10,000 - rechroming/plating
$1,000 - Top
$12,500 - Miscellaeous (brakes, tires, hardware, whatever is not covered above)
_______________________
$53,500 - Total restoration costs for a car that would bring $30K tops as a restored vehicle.

Now, how is paying anything more than $4,000 a good deal for this SFGT again???

If a guy were to do a half-assed "restoration" on this, he might get by with $20K for the resto budget; but again, you'd have $32,500 in a car that would be half-assed, and not bring the $32,500 at sale time.

BTW, I don't see any of you guys jumping on this "deal of the century"!

I would pay 10k for it if it would be GB7 blue, everything else being in the same condition. No joke.
But then I am probably a kool aid drinker. That is fine. I have a close friend who is a kool aid drinker, too.
So the group of kool aid drinkers is happy to buy cars which need work and money spent to make them enjoyable again.
It is called hobby&fun.

If you just follow your list of restoration costs we could scrap our cars.
Financially they all don't make sense.

But doing a project means you have to calculate correctly. Your list sums up to 54.000$ not 53,500$

Carsten

 

[tbm3fan]

No wonder Mopar guys are known as "cheap" by other collectors.

The word would be "practical"

Of course those other collectors are working with more collectible, desirable and valuable cars when done...

We are in our own little world here. I'll call it Pluto:yaayy:

 

[commando1]

You guys are insane.
It is a $1,500.00 Sport Fury. Add $500.00 for the GT aura.
You guys are adding thousands for the GT aura.
I can buy a Fury and add my own aura the way I like it.

We're NOT talking AAR Cuda over 318 Barracuda here.
THAT'S an aura you should pay for.

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

We're NOT talking AAR Cuda over 318 Barracuda here.
THAT'S an aura you should pay for.

Wrong

A 440 SFGT is as oppsite to a 318 Fury as the AAR Cuda to the 318 Barracuda
Completely different car

Carsten

 

[commando1]

You missed my point.
But it is not your fault.
It's hard to describe the issue I was trying to raise.

It's 15 hundred dollar Fury in my mind.

 

[Wollfen]

Lol, the vagaries of personal views on values on varying cars is such a highly subjective matter. Each to his own and each will value things as they see fit. What is really funny about all this is that EVERYONE is in agreement about it being overpriced. Wasn't that the point of the starting commentary in this post originally?

 

[Samplingman]

You missed my point.
But it is not your fault.
It's hard to describe the issue I was trying to raise.

It's 15 hundred dollar Fury in my mind.

Don't fight it, Stan! The stupid money is coming to C bodies!!! You can't even buy a good parts car for $1500!

Lol, the vagaries of personal views on values on varying cars is such a highly subjective matter. Each to his own and each will value things as they see fit. What is really funny about all this is that EVERYONE is in agreement about it being overpriced. Wasn't that the point of the starting commentary in this post originally?

FWIW, I actually think it's reasonable, as I said in my post, to the right person, provided it is a running car. How many complete matching SFGT's have come through here recently?

 

[polara71]

Bunch of cheap bastards

 

[tbm3fan]

FWIW, I actually think it's reasonable, as I said in my post, to the right person, provided it is a running car. How many complete matching SFGT's have come through here recently?

Ok, from a marketing point of view how many "right" persons are out there? If I were selling something I'd want thousands out there to create demand for the item. So are there a 1000 buyers out there for this car? On the other hand suppose there are only two buyers out there? What happens when such a case exists? I know what I would do and that is wait him out since there is no demand and the seller will sit on the item for a long time.

We tend to exist in our own little world in our taste for C bodies but a huge majority could care less. Look at me I like big Mercs and as far as I know there are only three of us in the Bay Area.That is the way it is and always will be. So one needs to remember that and not go why don't others see what we see.

As to this car, since it has been said to have been up for sale a long time, that would seem to support my view that there are precious few buyers and they are waiting him out. Of course, one might buy it, restore it and then try to sell for a high price repeating the original mistake.

 

[tbm3fan]

Bunch of cheap bastards

Nah, just two sides of a coin. I have a really, really good analogy that fits this clash of two points of view and it involves money, stupid money and value. Unfortunately, I cannot use this real life example on this forum.

 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

but sometimes it is the marketing, too.
Lewis had his car for sale on pages like racingjunk.com. How many C-body guys are there?
And sometimes it was on craigslist but not often and not for long

He never put it on ebay.com in example to reach a wide amount of potential customers (including europeans ie)

Carsten

 

[Rwc]

it seems like that to the general public that might be looking for a car to turn quick a gt would be a better bet than a fury III, and to any one looking to put one together this one has a huge supply of what is needed in trim alone. If that car could be bought for $2000 it seems like there should be a stampede to his door. my .02

 

[Samplingman]

Ok, from a marketing point of view how many "right" persons are out there? If I were selling something I'd want thousands out there to create demand for the item. So are there a 1000 buyers out there for this car? On the other hand suppose there are only two buyers out there? What happens when such a case exists? I know what I would do and that is wait him out since there is no demand and the seller will sit on the item for a long time.

We tend to exist in our own little world in our taste for C bodies but a huge majority could care less. Look at me I like big Mercs and as far as I know there are only three of us in the Bay Area.That is the way it is and always will be. So one needs to remember that and not go why don't others see what we see.

As to this car, since it has been said to have been up for sale a long time, that would seem to support my view that there are precious few buyers and they are waiting him out. Of course, one might buy it, restore it and then try to sell for a high price repeating the original mistake.

Indeed, it will only take one buyer. As for demand, it's hard to judge, there are many lurkers out there that never post. Also, this one may have been for sale for many years, but this is the first time I've seen it and I've been a member since 2012. Back then of course, I wasn't interested, so I may have missed it, but the '70-71 SFGT is kind of a Holy Grail, bucket list car for me. I'm not ready yet, but I'm looking and waiting for the right car at the right time, and 12.5k for the right car at the right time is not off the grid, IMHO.

 

[69monaco]

Okay.......http://www.forcbodiesonly.com/mopar...mouth-Sport-Fury-GT&highlight=1971+sport+fury