When has it gone too far?

When my youngest daughter was a Junior in High school they were given a social sciences or life studies glass. They were divided into small groups and given the assignment of creating a new society from scratch. They were encouraged as it went along to consider the communist Chinese system as good gauge. The teacher felt it is most likely the most fair to all involved. That was an awesome parent teacher conference. I am sure that he was glad that was my last kid in that school
 
Many on this site have heard me say, "Can we bring back the 20th century", this is one of the reasons why. I think the biggest problem today is that parents are to busy making money to take the time to raise their children. They have, "live in nanny's" and do not care about their children until the kids get in trouble, and then they are responsible. My dad used to have a saying, 18 years of trouble, for 18 minutes of pleasure.
Now not saying I am perfect, all parents make mistakes with their children, I have made mine, but one thing my father did teach me was, "Your children are the end result of what you put into them".
When I was a kid in grade school, I had problems with both eyes that required surgery, and I was very scared of losing my sight. Because of this I was bullied until 8th grade, but when I was told they had healed, I started fighting back. It felt so good to kick some of the butt that was done to me, and thank god my father backed me on every bit of it.
The really sad thing about the world today is this, I have always thought of myself as a liberal, but society has gone so bad that even though I am still the same, I have now moved over to being a conservative. GOD HELP US ALL.
 
The really sad thing about the world today is this, I have always thought of myself as a liberal, but society has gone so bad that even though I am still the same, I have now moved over to being a conservative. GOD HELP US ALL.
Don't sell yourself short. You are still true to liberal values. Traditional conservatives and traditional liberals have been forced into the same camp by circumstances to defend our democratic values that we share which includes free speech. In today's society you can not even suggest that gender fluidity is only a social construct without being labelled a hate mongering bigot. It may already be too late but you have no hope of fighting this without completely understanding the forces promoting this anarchy. Turning away in frustration yields the battlefield to the enemy.
 
Don't sell yourself short. You are still true to liberal values. Traditional conservatives and traditional liberals have been forced into the same camp by circumstances to defend our democratic values that we share which includes free speech. In today's society you can not even suggest that gender fluidity is only a social construct without being labelled a hate mongering bigot. It may already be too late but you have no hope of fighting this without completely understanding the forces promoting this anarchy. Turning away in frustration yields the battlefield to the enemy.
Oh don't get me wrong, I work very hard to teach my grandchildren right and wrong. My children welcome it. But again it all boils down to putting the time into raising your children, not someone else. Being a parent is a job for the rest of your life. It does not end when they turn 18.
 
In today's society you can not even suggest that gender fluidity is only a social construct without being labelled a hate mongering bigot.

You can't disagree with anyone without being labeled a hate mongering bigot.

The ability to be rational and intelligently discuss anything has been tossed out the window.
 
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Too bad people can't understand this.
 
When I was a kid there were three options, Male, Female and Queer. Now according to Cancritters posting there are no less than 14 plus the option for a 15th "other". What the heck, I can't even spell the names of some of them. Looks to me like Queer has just been subdivided into 13 different flavors.

I suppose that is a good thing if you are a ground pounder, grouped according to flavor and sent into battle saving the boys and girls for last!
 
By the time my kids were out of school (same school) I had a couple teachers that didn't like me very much... I was never afraid to call one out on their BS. Of course, I would back them (teachers) up more times then not too. My kids weren't angels by any means...
I've been down this road. Couple things happened on my son's bus he had a part in all of a sudden the calls start every time something happens on the bus. Finally ends with a broken window and principal calling my wife (because he knows that he does not want to deal with me). Long story short after threats that I have to pay for a broken window (yeah right! ever hear of insurance Mr. principal), I called, politely explained to the secretary than it is now 11am, if I do not hear back from said principal by 4pm on this Fri, I will be at school district admin building at 8 am Monday. He had let a bully terrorize the bus long enough, I did not want to be the complaining parent a first but now it was out of his control so I was going over his head. Problem solved. He called me before 4pm and told me how he fixed it, then I explained how it was going to be and how insurance works, and don't ever call my wife again.
He is now spreading his dumb ideas at another school district, good for us bad for them. Amazingly no problems from my kid beyond dumb crap, handled by school right now, no problem.
 
My late father was Brigadier General and his world simply didn't include queers, heck he had major problems with women in the forces. One of his favorite sayings,
Women belong in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant!
I took the Massachusetts State Police exam in 1971 with a close friend.
He entered, I didn't. Ran into him 20 years later and asked him how it's been. He said, very digustedly, "Ever since they starting admitting women, niggas (his words NOT mine)|, chinks, and fags, the State Police has gone down the toilet. Can't wait to get out of here".

:rolleyes:
 
I took the Massachusetts State Police exam in 1971 with a close friend.
He entered, I didn't. Ran into him 20 years later and asked him how it's been. He said, very digustedly, "Ever since they starting admitting women, niggas (his words NOT mine)|, chinks, and fags, the State Police has gone down the toilet. Can't wait to get out of here".

:rolleyes:
The rub with these various groups are their attitudes, they feel they are a special case and deserve special treatment. They don't understand that in reality all they are is different.
 
When I was a kid there were three options, Male, Female and Queer. Now according to Cancritters posting there are no less than 14 plus the option for a 15th "other". What the heck, I can't even spell the names of some of them. Looks to me like Queer has just been subdivided into 13 different flavors.

I suppose that is a good thing if you are a ground pounder, grouped according to flavor and sent into battle saving the boys and girls for last!
Queer is not a gender either. A gender is what you have between your legs biological. And I can tell you, my wifes ex husband is Transgender (which makes sense if you define it,a dude who transitioned into a "woman"). This person has greatly messed up the 3 kids (2 autistic teenage boys who think they are "bi", an anxiety ridden 13y/o girl who attempted suicide last year and now tells us she is genderfluid). Those kids dont know where they belong and while going through puberty and having feelings which are completely normal, today's society has gone the direction that they google their "feeling" and put a label on it. Making it more than it really is. Can you Imagine how hard that is for me as a parent to have to do the schools work and teach them biology, history, civics and what not. All they do in school is **** and have pizza partys. And those topics I have to even touch with a 10ft pole to not "hurt their feelings" when i tell them how **** works.
 
Queer is not a gender either. A gender is what you have between your legs biological. And I can tell you, my wifes ex husband is Transgender (which makes sense if you define it,a dude who transitioned into a "woman"). This person has greatly messed up the 3 kids (2 autistic teenage boys who think they are "bi", an anxiety ridden 13y/o girl who attempted suicide last year and now tells us she is genderfluid). Those kids dont know where they belong and while going through puberty and having feelings which are completely normal, today's society has gone the direction that they google their "feeling" and put a label on it. Making it more than it really is. Can you Imagine how hard that is for me as a parent to have to do the schools work and teach them biology, history, civics and what not. All they do in school is **** and have pizza partys. And those topics I have to even touch with a 10ft pole to not "hurt their feelings" when i tell them how **** works.

This is to me the worst and most harmful part of it. I really don't care what adults do with themselves. But it strikes me as unfathomablely selfish to screw up your kids (and ultimately society) like that. And that is often what happens.
 
I took the Massachusetts State Police exam in 1971 with a close friend.
He entered, I didn't. Ran into him 20 years later and asked him how it's been. He said, very digustedly, "Ever since they starting admitting women, niggas (his words NOT mine)|, chinks, and fags, the State Police has gone down the toilet. Can't wait to get out of here".

:rolleyes:
Guess he wouldn't want to be a Mountie either...
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This is to me the worst and most harmful part of it. I really don't care what adults do with themselves. But it strikes me as unfathomablely selfish to screw up your kids (and ultimately society) like that. And that is often what happens.
That is the biggest problem I'm having with this... Kids don't really know what they want and can be influenced very easily. Telling them they are ______ (fill in the blank) because that's what Mom and Dad think they are is doing nothing to help them.

I have a grand daughter that loves to play with trucks... Does that mean she's really a boy? Nope... Just means she likes trucks. No reason to read anything else into it... or try to take away her trucks either.
 
That is the biggest problem I'm having with this... Kids don't really know what they want and can be influenced very easily. Telling them they are ______ (fill in the blank) because that's what Mom and Dad think they are is doing nothing to help them.

I have a grand daughter that loves to play with trucks... Does that mean she's really a boy? Nope... Just means she likes trucks. No reason to read anything else into it... or try to take away her trucks either.

I'll take some tomboy over a useless princess all day long.
 
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